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Re: [OpenStack-I18n] [openstack-dev] [i18n] [glance] ESL question 'shared' vs 'shareable'
by Ian Y. Choi 16 Nov '16

16 Nov '16

Hello devs, As a Korean translator, I also quite agree with the idea. Some images with "shared" state but actually not shared yet would be awkward, and "shareable" word would cover such context : those images can be shard but may not be shared yet (although the addition of "image members"is needed) or already shared. Hello translators, I am copying openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org on this. Would you pleased think about this and share your thoughts? (Or please attend to the next i18n IRC meeting about in 9-10 hours and tell me.) With many thanks, /Ian Sean McGinnis wrote on 11/17/2016 1:44 AM: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 04:04:52PM +0000, Brian Rosmaita wrote: >> Hello Translators, >> >> We're having a discussion about a new image "visibility" value for Glance, >> and before we go too far, it would be helpful to know whether what we're >> worried about is going to matter for ESL people. >> >> Here's the situation: Since the Diablo release, Glance end users have had >> the ability to share images with other cloud users by adding "members" to >> the image. We call those "shared images". Previously, we haven't had a >> special "visibility" keyword for these, but we are introducing one now >> [0]. Here's the problem introduced by that change: >> >> (1) Members can only be added to an image if its current visibility value >> allows for it. We're going to make this an explicit visibility state that >> we ware proposing to call 'shared'. >> >> (2) An image with visibility == 'shared', however, isn't actually >> accessible to other users unless they are added as "image members". So >> it's going to be possible for a user to have some images with visibility >> == 'shared', but they aren't *really* shared with anyone yet. >> >> (3) For reasons outlined on [0], we're proposing to make this new >> visibility the default value in Glance. This will enable the current >> sharing workflow to work in a backward-compatible way. But some people >> are worried that users will panic when they see that their new images have >> visibility == 'shared' (even though no other users have access to such >> images until "image members" are added). >> >> (4) To address this, we're thinking that maybe the identifier for this >> kind of image visibility should be 'shareable'. >> >> Finally, here's my question. For an ESL person looking at these two >> identifiers (which, as identifiers, won't be translated): >> * shared >> * shareable >> >> Are the above so similar that the nuances of the discussion above would be >> lost anyway? In other words, are we just bikeshedding here, or is there a >> clear distinction? What I mean is, is the panic described above likely or >> unlikely to happen for an ESL person? >> >> thanks, >> brian > Good question. I think technically it would be shareable, which would > mean that it then able to be shared. > > Realistically though, in my opinion, calling it shared to denote that it > _can be_ shared is probably intuitive enough that there wouldn't be any > confusion about the naming. > > My 2 cents. > >> [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396919/ >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

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Creating i18n-specs for I18n specifications
by Ian Y. Choi 08 Nov '16

08 Nov '16

Hello, Official OpenStack project teams can have specification repositories, and the specifications are published on: http://specs.openstack.org/ . As we decided on last Barcelona i18n contributor meetup (Please see number 2 part in Etherpad for more details: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-i18n-meetup ), I have just requested to create i18n-specs repository using the following patchsets - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394680/ - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394681/ Hope that more i18n activities will be documented with details and shared using this i18n-specs repo. I will notice again after i18n-specs repo will be landed successfully :) With many thanks, /Ian

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Feedback is needed for I18n draft logo!
by Ian Y. Choi 08 Nov '16

08 Nov '16

Hello, On last July, i18n team decided *parrot* as i18n project mascot. OpenStack Foundation has a plan for all the official OpenStack teams to have logos based on mascots. Logos will be ready by the 1st Project Team Gathering on next February. Please see the attached figure for draft logo. The attached is a draft logo for i18n team to target Barcelona Summit for project teams to more discuss on logos. If you are interested in how illustrators worked, please refer a video: https://youtu.be/JmMTCWyY8Y4 . I18n team needs to return a feedback from the draft logo by Nov 11 (Fri) with a feedback form: http://tinyurl.com/OSmascot . Direct feedback to the URL is also fine, but please share feedback through i18n mailing list! (e.g., color, style, design, form, ...) The following is what I was received what we can expect through the logo: * A horizontal version of the logo, including your mascot, project name and the words "An OpenStack Community project" * A square(ish) version of the logo, including all of the above * A mascot-only version of the logo * Stickers for all project teams distributed at the PTG * One piece of swag that incorporates all project mascots, such as a deck of playing cards, distributed at the PTG * All digital files will be available through the website With many thanks, /Ian

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I18n in BCN: I18n contributor meetup wrap up
by Ian Y. Choi 02 Nov '16

02 Nov '16

Hello! There were around total 20 participants for last I18n contributor meetup @Barcelona, including Daisy, Zanata team, Infrastructure team, Docs team, and Stackalytics team members! Thank you very much for such all kind and so active participation! Although there have been sort of time conflicts for some active translators and main contributors on other projects but who are helping i18n team a lot, we have met each other and discussed for better i18n. I think i18n team members have dealt various topics with so long time. If there was no time limit: 6pm, i18n members might have discussed much longer :) I am now transferring to go home and my final flight has been delayed about 3 hours, but thanks to such delay, I have briefly summarized now what have been discussed and what are results from I18n contributor meetup. Please see Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-i18n-meetup , and "Discussed Topics and Results" (2nd) section. - Andreas Jaeger shortly visited due to his return flight and we agreed with translation job import and export criteria. I have briefly summarized in number *(1)*. - Ilya Shakhat, who is a Stackalytics core developer and maintainer, kindly participated in the meetup. If anyone is interested in Stackalytics with i18n statistics, please refer to number *(3)* for the details. - Although there is another infrastructure team meeting on the same time, Elizabeth K. Joseph and Clark Boylan came to I18n contributor meetup (thank you so much again!). Zanata upgrade *(4)* is what i18n team is really waiting for. Alex Eng and Patrick Huang from Zanata team gave some beneficial feedback (e.g., current Zanata version number and new version release plan) through IRC in real time. Moreover, I hope that some discussion of translation checksite *(5)* will yield more positive progress, although it seems that more discussion is needed. - Also, Lana from Docs team PTL visited to i18n contributor meetup, although she was leading Docs contributor meetup on the same time. Lana and me both agreed that more communication between two teams will make nice fruit *(6)*. - For i18n activities, we have differentiated and clarified the usage of web pages : Zanata dashboard, Wiki, i18n contributor guide, and so on *(2)*, and also finalizing Ocata translation plans is very important during Ocata Design Summit *(7)*! I will update Zanata dashboard according to the finalization. Because of some time restriction, some topics has not been discussed yet or just briefly mentioned. Let's also consider those topics gradually such as on the next IRC meeting. Some meetup participants took photos. Frank shared photos to Etherpad! I hope that other participants will share photos soon. Hope all to have a return flight safely. Again, thank you very much all! With many thanks, /Ian

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Fwd: Feedback is needed for I18n draft logo!
by Cloud Suhartono 02 Nov '16

02 Nov '16

Hello, I just gave the OpenStack Project Mascot Feedback. Overall, our logo is good, even though, skill of parrots just follows what people say, and is not smart enough to present it. For notes, our project should presents clearly the documentation. /suh 2016-11-02 1:13 GMT+07:00 JF Taltavull <jftalta(a)gmail.com>: > Hello Ian, hello teammates, > > The draft logo looks good for me, though the black lines are a little bit > too bold, maybe... > > -JF > > On 30/10/2016 03:05, Ian Y. Choi wrote: > > Hello, > > On last July, i18n team decided *parrot* as i18n project mascot. > OpenStack Foundation has a plan for all the official OpenStack teams to > have logos > based on mascots. Logos will be ready by the 1st Project Team Gathering on > next February. > > Please see the attached figure for draft logo. > > The attached is a draft logo for i18n team to target Barcelona Summit for > project teams > to more discuss on logos. > If you are interested in how illustrators worked, please refer a video: > https://youtu.be/JmMTCWyY8Y4 . > > I18n team needs to return a feedback from the draft logo by Nov 11 (Fri) > with a feedback form: http://tinyurl.com/OSmascot . > > Direct feedback to the URL is also fine, but please share feedback through > i18n mailing list! > (e.g., color, style, design, form, ...) > > The following is what I was received what we can expect through the logo: > > * A horizontal version of the logo, including your mascot, project name > and the words "An OpenStack Community project" > * A square(ish) version of the logo, including all of the above > * A mascot-only version of the logo > * Stickers for all project teams distributed at the PTG > * One piece of swag that incorporates all project mascots, such as > a deck of playing cards, distributed at the PTG > * All digital files will be available through the website > > > > With many thanks, > > /Ian > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-I18n mailing listOpenStack-I18n@lists.openstack.orghttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-I18n mailing list > OpenStack-I18n(a)lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > >

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Re: [OpenStack-I18n] Feedback is needed for I18n draft logo!
by Kato, Tomoyuki 02 Nov '16

02 Nov '16

Hi Ian, I do like this mascot logo. KATO Tomoyuki > Hello, > > On last July, i18n team decided *parrot* as i18n project mascot. > OpenStack Foundation has a plan for all the official OpenStack teams to > have logos > based on mascots. Logos will be ready by the 1st Project Team Gathering > on next February. > > Please see the attached figure for draft logo. > > The attached is a draft logo for i18n team to target Barcelona Summit > for project teams > to more discuss on logos. > If you are interested in how illustrators worked, please refer a video: > https://youtu.be/JmMTCWyY8Y4 . > > I18n team needs to return a feedback from the draft logo by Nov 11 (Fri) > with a feedback form: http://tinyurl.com/OSmascot . > > Direct feedback to the URL is also fine, but please share feedback > through i18n mailing list! > (e.g., color, style, design, form, ...) > > The following is what I was received what we can expect through the logo: > > * A horizontal version of the logo, including your mascot, project > name and the words "An OpenStack Community project" > * A square(ish) version of the logo, including all of the above > * A mascot-only version of the logo > * Stickers for all project teams distributed at the PTG > * One piece of swag that incorporates all project mascots, such as > a deck of playing cards, distributed at the PTG > * All digital files will be available through the website > > > > With many thanks, > > /Ian

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[Bug 1637900] [NEW] 创建域、项目、用户和角色 in Installation Guide
by woolenhy 31 Oct '16

31 Oct '16

Public bug reported: ----------------------------------- Release: 0.1 on 2016-10-30 16:22 SHA: 0aec93ae3cabb0ba77ca4a0a2498b5dcaf454984 Source: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/doc/install-… URL: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/zh_CN/install-guide-rdo/keystone-users.html The following are a problem? 创建域``default``： $ openstack domain create --description "Default Domain" default openstack: 'domain' is not an openstack command. See 'openstack --help'. Did you mean one of these? command list container create container delete container list container save container set container show container unset ** Affects: openstack-i18n Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: install-guide -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of OpenStack I18n Core Team, which is subscribed to openstack i18n. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1637900 Title: 创建域、项目、用户和角色 in Installation Guide Status in openstack i18n: New Bug description: ----------------------------------- Release: 0.1 on 2016-10-30 16:22 SHA: 0aec93ae3cabb0ba77ca4a0a2498b5dcaf454984 Source: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/doc/install-… URL: http://docs.openstack.org/mitaka/zh_CN/install-guide-rdo/keystone-users.html The following are a problem? 创建域``default``： $ openstack domain create --description "Default Domain" default openstack: 'domain' is not an openstack command. See 'openstack --help'. Did you mean one of these? command list container create container delete container list container save container set container show container unset To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1637900/+subscriptions

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[I18n] No IRC Meeting but inviting virtual i18n contributor meetup through IRC
by Ian Y. Choi 27 Oct '16

27 Oct '16

Hello all, I18n team will not have IRC meeting in #openstack-meeting IRC channel this week, since Barcelona Summit is now on-going! :) But there will be virtual meeting time during Barcelona I18n contributor meetup. The time will be 13:00-14:00 UTC on tomorrow (Friday) (See a few different timezones: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20161028T15&p1=31… ) on *#openstack-i18n# channel, not #openstack-meeting channel. For Barcelona I18n contributor meetup and virtual meeting, please see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-i18n-meetup for more details. With many thanks, /Ian

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Planning Barcelona Design Summit session - contributors meetup
by Ian Y. Choi 20 Oct '16

20 Oct '16

Hello, I have started to plan I18n Barcelona Design Summit session. We will have one contributors meetup on October28th (Friday) 2-6pm at Barcelona. Please see Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-i18n-meetup , and write your availability on Barcelona I18n contributors meetup and/or possible discussion topics. And for contributors who could not come to Barcelona, I am planning to have 'virtual meeting time' for one hour during contributors meetup. If someone is unable to come to Barcelona but would like to participate in virtual meeting time, please write your name and time preference on survey: http://doodle.com/poll/zny89dgs53n28y56 . With many thanks, /Ian

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[I18n] IRC Meeting remainder: October 20th at 07:00 UTC
by Ian Y. Choi 19 Oct '16

19 Oct '16

Hello all, I18n team is having our next meeting on October 20th (Thursday) at 07:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting IRC channel. You can find meeting agenda here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/I18nTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_me… Anyone is welcome to add topics on Wiki If you missed previous IRC meeting or want to refresh, please see last IRC meeting minutes and full logs: Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/opensta… Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/opensta… Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/opensta… Note: There will be no IRC meeting on October 27th (Thursday) at 13:00 UTC, since the next week is reserved for Barcelona Summit. Instead hope to see on October 28th (Friday) at 06:00-07:00 UTC during Barcelona I18n contributor meetup. (I will announce it later.) With many thanks, /Ian

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