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Re: [OpenStack-I18n] [openstack-dev] [docs][i18n][ptg] Stein PTG Summary
by Ian Y. Choi 24 Sep '18

24 Sep '18

Thanks a lot for nice summary on Docs part especially! I would like to add an additional summary with more context from I18n perspective. Note: I mainly participated in Docs/I18n discussion only on Monday & Tuesday (not available during Wed - Fri due to conflicts with other work in my country), and my summary would be different from current I18n PTL if he have parcipated in Stein PTG, but I would like to summarize as I18n ex-PTL (Ocata, Pike) and as one of active partcipants in Docs/I18n discussion. Documentation & I18n teams started to have collaborative discussions from Pike PTG. Following with Queens & Rocky cycle, I am so happy that Documentation & I18n teams had tight collaboration again at Stein PTG for horizontal discussion with sharing issues and tight collaboration. More details for I18n issues are available at the bottom part ("i18n Topics") in: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-stein PROJECT DOCUMENTATION TRANSLATION SUPPORT This year, I18n team actively started to support project documentation translation [1] and there had progress on defining documentation translation targets, generatepot infra jobs, and translation sync on from project repositories to Zanata for translation sources & from Zanata to project repositories for translated strings. [2] and [3] are parts of work I18n team did on previous cycle, and the final part would be how to support translated documentation publication aligned with Documentation team, since PDF support implementation is also related with how to publish PDF files for project repositories. Although there were so nice discussion during last Vancouver Summit [4], more generic idea on infra side how to better support translated documentation & PDF builds and translation would be needed after some changes on Project Testing Interface which is used for project documentation builds [5]. [6] is a nice summary from Doug (really appreciated!) for the direction and plans on PDF and translation builds by making use of openstack-tox-docs job [7], and I18n team would like to continue to work with Documentation and Infrastructure teams on actual implementation suring Stein cycle. USER SURVEY, TRANSLATING WHITEPAPERS, AND RECOGNITION ON TRANSLATORS With nice collaboration between Foundation and I18n team, I18n team started to translate OpenStack user survey [8] after initial discussion on Pike PTG and, edge computing whitepaper [9], and container whitepaer [10] into multiple languages with many language coordinators and translators. Those translation effort might be different from Active Technical Contributor (ATC) recognition which translators also got for OpenStack project translation and techical documentation translation [11]. Some translators shared that they would be interested in translating technical documents but not interested in OpenStack user survey and other non-technical documents. I thought that it might be due to different governance (Foundation-led & official projects with technical committee might be different), and Active User Contributor (AUC) [12] recognition might be a good idea. Although I could not discuss in details with User Committee members during PTG, Foundation agreed that AUC recognition for such translators would be a good idea and Melvin, one of user committee agreed with the idea during a very short conversation. In my opinion, it would take some time for more discussion and agreement on detail criteria (e.g., which number of words might be good aligning with current AUC recognition criteria), User Committee, and Foundation), but let's try to move forward on this :) Also, documentation on detail steps and activities with user survey on further years and more on whitepapers would be important, so I18n team will more document how I18n team members do action with steps like [13]. And some translators shared concerns what there is no I18n in OpenStack project navigator and map. It would be also related with recognition on what translators contributed. Foundation explained that it might be the intention of the purpose of each artifact (e.g., OpenStack were designed to show OpenStack components and how those components interact each other with technical perspective), and Foundation shared that Foundation would do best to aggregate scattered definitions (e.g., [14], [15], and somewhere more) for consistency, and find a nice place for Docs, i18n, Congress, etc... on the Software/Project Navigator. TRANSLATING CONTRIBUTOR GUIDE WITH FIRST CONTACT SIG The detail summary is in [16]. To summarize, - I shared I18n process to First Contact SIG members. Participants acknowledged that setting *translation period* would be needed but starting from initial translation process would be a good idea since it is not translated yet - Participants think that user groups would be interested in translating contributor guide. - Me will setup translation sync and publication on contributor guide and Kendall Nelson would kindly help explain the background of adding contributor guide for translator target. I18N-ING STORYBOARD [17] Although I18n team now uses Launchpad [18] for task management, I think there are mix on multiple language issues on "bugs" section, which prevents from maintance by language coordinators. After discussion on I18n mailing list [19], I thought that it would be very grat if Storyboard is internationalized so that I18n team can migrate from Launchpad to Storyboard and more global contributors access to Storyboard with their native language. One issue regarding I18n-ing Storyboard was that story description for most projects needs to be written in English, but I18n-ing Storyboard might mislead contributors to write description in non-English. Participants thought that adding a warning message on posting pages (e.g., posting a Story) would solve this issue. Participants shared current implementation technologies used in Storyboard and other dashboard projects such as Horizon and TripleO UI. Brainstorming and making use of I18n-ing libraries on Storyboard is an action item at current point. PROCESS ON OPENSTACK-HELM DOC FROM NON-ENGLISH TO ENGLISH* * I participated in a brief discussion with OpenStack-Helm team for documentation contribution from Korean to English. Current documentation and I18n process starts from English to multiple languages, but some active contributors in OpenStack-Helm team would like to contribute to Korean documentation first and translate from Korean into English. My suggestion is to keep current documentation and I18n process but add more additional steps before English rst-based documentation. For example, if OpenStack-Helm team cores agree to have *doc-ko_KR/source* folder, contributing Korean documentation is limited to the folder, Zanata helps to translate from Korean to English on the folder, translated po can make English rsts, and translated rst files are added to *doc/source* folder, there might be no affect on existing documentation & I18n process and Korean documentation contrubution and translation from Korean to English would be encouraged. OpenStack-Helm team agreed with this step, and I think this would be a good step for more Internationalization as a pilot project first but this can be extended to more projects in future. This is my summary on I18n issues discussed during Stein PTG. Thanks a lot for all members who involve and help Documentation and I18n. Although there were no discussion on setting translation plans and priorities, let's do that through [21] with Frank :) And finally, more pictures are available through [22] :) With many thanks, /Ian [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+spec/project-doc-translati… [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545377/ [3] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581000/ [4] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-docs-support-pdf-and-translation [5] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580495/ [6] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134609.ht… [7] https://docs.openstack.org/infra/openstack-zuul-jobs/jobs.html#job-openstac… [8] https://www.openstack.org/user-survey [9] https://www.openstack.org/edge-computing/cloud-edge-computing-beyond-the-da… [10] https://www.openstack.org/containers/leveraging-containers-and-openstack/ [11] https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/official_translator.html#atc-status-… [12] https://governance.openstack.org/uc/reference/charter.html#active-user-cont… [13] https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/release_management.html [14] https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/www/project… [15] https://github.com/ttx/openstack-map/blob/master/openstack_components.yaml [16] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FC_SIG_ptg_stein [17] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sb-stein-ptg-planning [18] https://launchpad.net/openstack-i18n [19] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2018-September/003307.h… [20] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2018-September/046937.html [21] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2018-September/003314.h… [22] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2pmvfkstudih2wf/AAAG2c6C_OXorMRFH66AvboYa/Docs%2… Petr Kovar wrote on 9/20/2018 8:37 AM: > Hi all, > > Just wanted to share a summary of docs- and i18n-related meetings > and discussions we had in Denver last week during the Stein Project > Teams Gathering. > > The overall schedule for all our sessions with additional comments and > meeting minutes can be found here: > > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-stein > > Our obligatory team picture (with quite a few members missing) can be > found here (courtesy of Foundation folks): > > https://pmkovar.fedorapeople.org/DSC_4422.JPG > > To summarize what I found most important: > > OPS DOCS > > We met with the Ops community to discuss the future of Ops docs. The plan > is for the Ops group to take ownership of the operations-guide (done), > ha-guide (in progress), and the arch-design guide (to do). > > These three documents are being moved from openstack-manuals to their own > repos, owned by the newly formed Operations Documentation SIG. > > See also > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-ptg-denver-2018-operations-guide > for more notes. > > DOCS SITE & DESIGN > > We discussed improving the site navigation, guide summaries (particularly > install-guide), adding a new index page for project team contrib guides, and > more. We met with the Foundation staff to discuss the possibility of getting > assistance with site design work. > > We are also looking into accepting contributions from the Strategic Focus > Areas folks to make parts of the docs toolchain like openstackdocstheme more > easily reusable outside of the official OpenStack infrastructure. > > We got feedback on front page template for project team docs, with Ironic > being the pilot for us. > > We got input on restructuring and reworking specs site to make it easier > for users to understand that specs are not feature descriptions nor project > docs, and to make it more consistent in how the project teams publish their > specs. This will need to be further discussed with the folks owning the > specs site infra. > > Support status badges showing at the top of docs.o.o pages may not work well > for projects following the cycle-with-intermediary release model, such as > Swift. We need to rethink how we configure and present the badges. > > There are also some UX bugs present for the badges > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-doc-tools/+bug/1788389). > > TRANSLATIONS > > We met with the infra team to discuss progress on translating project team > docs and, related to that, PDF builds. > > With the Foundation staff, we discussed translating Edge and Container > whitepapers and related material. > > REFERENCE, REST API DOCS AND RELEASE NOTES > > With the QA team, we discussed the scope and purpose of the > /doc/source/reference documentation area in project docs. Because the > scope of /reference might be unclear and used inconsistently by project > teams, the suggestion is to continue with the original migration plan and > migrate REST API and possibly Release Notes under /doc/source, as described > in https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/project-guides.html. > > CONTRIBUTOR GUIDE > > The OpenStack Contributor Guide was discussed in a separate session, see > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FC_SIG_ptg_stein for notes. > > THAT'S IT? > > Please add to the list if I missed anything important, particularly for > i18n. > > Thank you to everybody who attended the sessions, and a special thanks goes > to all the PTG organizers! > > Cheers, > pk > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

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[Bug 1792867] [NEW] 安装和配置计算节点 in Installation Guide
by wangjianqiang 17 Sep '18

17 Sep '18

Public bug reported: vim /etc/nova/nova.conf [DEFAULT] ... rpc_backend = rabbit [oslo_messaging_rabbit] ... rabbit_host = controller rabbit_userid = openstack rabbit_password = RABBIT_PASS tail -f /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log 2018-09-17 13:02:17.467 2320 INFO oslo.messaging._drivers.impl_rabbit [-] Delaying reconnect for 1.0 seconds... 2018-09-17 13:02:18.475 2320 ERROR oslo.messaging._drivers.impl_rabbit [-] AMQP server on localhost:5672 is unreachable: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED. Trying again in 9 seconds. [DEFAULT] ... rpc_backend = rabbit #[oslo_messaging_rabbit] ... rabbit_host = controller rabbit_userid = openstack rabbit_password = RABBIT_PASS liberty版本安装nova计算节点时报错，直接将消息队列配置全部放入默认区域，重启服务恢复正常 ----------------------------------- Release: 0.1 on 2016-11-24 07:54 SHA: cc8b39934de4de69e5235ca8e5c4d4b567d0f418 Source: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/doc/install-… URL: https://docs.openstack.org/liberty/zh_CN/install-guide-ubuntu/nova-compute-… ** Affects: openstack-i18n Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: install-guide -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of OpenStack I18n Core Team, which is subscribed to openstack i18n. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1792867 Title: 安装和配置计算节点 in Installation Guide Status in openstack i18n: New Bug description: vim /etc/nova/nova.conf [DEFAULT] ... rpc_backend = rabbit [oslo_messaging_rabbit] ... rabbit_host = controller rabbit_userid = openstack rabbit_password = RABBIT_PASS tail -f /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log 2018-09-17 13:02:17.467 2320 INFO oslo.messaging._drivers.impl_rabbit [-] Delaying reconnect for 1.0 seconds... 2018-09-17 13:02:18.475 2320 ERROR oslo.messaging._drivers.impl_rabbit [-] AMQP server on localhost:5672 is unreachable: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED. Trying again in 9 seconds. [DEFAULT] ... rpc_backend = rabbit #[oslo_messaging_rabbit] ... rabbit_host = controller rabbit_userid = openstack rabbit_password = RABBIT_PASS liberty版本安装nova计算节点时报错，直接将消息队列配置全部放入默认区域，重启服务恢复正常 ----------------------------------- Release: 0.1 on 2016-11-24 07:54 SHA: cc8b39934de4de69e5235ca8e5c4d4b567d0f418 Source: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/doc/install-… URL: https://docs.openstack.org/liberty/zh_CN/install-guide-ubuntu/nova-compute-… To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1792867/+subscriptions

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[I18n] Stein translation plans and prio
by Frank Kloeker 16 Sep '18

16 Sep '18

Hello, the PTG is just over and now we are at the beginning of the work for Stein cycle. First of all let me thank all supporters for the I18n team and all individuals who help to present OpenStack in different languages. We have made so much progress since the formation of the team. What are the workflows now for the Stein cycle: 1. Project documentation translation We have now the right Zuul jobs in the flow to pull and push documentation from project repos to Zanata and back. At the moment there are 3 early-bird projects on the list: Horizon, OpenStack Ansible, and OpenStack Helm. Expanding this list will be the main work in the cycle. 2. Whitepaper translation Early this year we started with translation of Edge Computing Whitepaper. After solving issues with publishing translated content we have here now also a flow from the origin document through translation platform and back. Container whitepaper is the second project in this space. 3. Stein Dashboard translation All translation strings from stable/rocky branch are merged back to master and we work ahead on the master branch. There are 22 projects on that list. All plans and prios are linked on the frontpage of translation platform https://translate.openstack.org Keep the stones rolling on the Stein cycle. kind regards Frank (PTL I18n)

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Farewell from Zanata
by Alex Eng 13 Sep '18

13 Sep '18

Hi, Due to the company changes, I am no longer able to contribute to the Zanata Platform project. I would like to give thanks for all of you who supported the project and me over the years. I have met and get to work with some of the most wonderful and great people because of this project. There are a lot of fond memories and a great bond built which I will cherish forever. I hope that we will cross our path again in the future. Personal contact: Email: loones1595(a)gmail.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-eng-sin-loon -- ALEX ENG

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[storyboard] [I18n] Can Storyboard web pages be translatable to multiple languages?
by Ian Y. Choi 06 Sep '18

06 Sep '18

Hello, I wanna ask whether https://storyboard.openstack.org/ web pages can be translatable to multiple languages (e.g., Chinese, Japanese, Korean, German, French, Spanish, ...) or not. I have thought such idea on my mind from some time period ago, and I think now would be a good timing for raising this question since it seems that more project repositories are migrating to Storyboard, and internationalization of Storyboard is one of criteria for I18n team to decide to migrate to Storyboard (FYI: discussion on I18n team - [1]). From my very brief investigation, it seems that adding I18n support on html pages like [2], extracting translation source strings to pot files, syncing with Zanata [3] with powerful infra support [4] would make Storyboard translatable with translating to multiple languages by I18n team. Am I understanding correctly and can I18n team get help on such effort? With many thanks, /Ian [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2018-September/003307.h… [2] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient/tree/src… [3] http://translate.openstack.org/ [4] https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/infra.html

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Retiring i18n-spec repository?
by Akihiro Motoki 06 Sep '18

06 Sep '18

Hi Frank and i18n cores, i18n-spec repository is never used since it is created almost two years ago. I would like to propose the retirement of the i18n-spec repository. The number of proposals was small so far and it would continue. If some proposal needs more detail explanation we can use the i18n repository. In addition, I think most folks do not check i18n-spec repository in a regular basis. Thought? Thanks, Akihiro Motoki (amotoki)

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