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[RFC] another message id generation proposal
by Peng Wu 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

Hi, Recently I read about the idea of REST API message and log message i18n proposals. I think maybe we could generate the message id by file name, method name and line no, like "test2.py#Main#15". I think this new message id is shorter and more readable than md5sum. And with this kind of information, the developer can locate the message as follows: 1. find all files with the same file name; 2. jump to the line no; 3. verify the function name and the gettext call; Then the developer can find the corresponding message. In the attachment, it is a small python program to print the information. Feel free to comment this new proposal. Thanks, Peng Wu Refer URL: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/log-messages-id https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/log-messages-translation-domain PS: I just noticed that some developers are considering to log both English and translated log messages, dunno whether they plan to return both English and translated REST API messages.

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Some hacks on gettext for separate pot file generation
by Peng Wu 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Hi, Recently my colleagues pointed out that gtk+ project already support multiple pot files, it supports both _("msg") and P_("msg") notation. In gtk+ project, it has two directories, po for _("msg"), po-properties for P_("msg"). The po directory is the same as other projects, the po-properties directory has modified the po-properties/Makefile.in.in file, to recognize P_("msg"). It uses "XGETTEXT_KEYWORDS = --keyword --keyword=P_" to extract the P_("msg") messages. Actually this approach requires one directory for each pot file, maybe good to not introduce many gettext directories for openstack projects. Thanks, Peng Wu

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Daily install documentation builds
by Łukasz Jernaś 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Hi, I've finally managed to get the daily doc builds up and running. So you should be able to find the install manual for your language here: http://docs.przytulnoc.pl/ Build status should be available at http://docs.przytulnoc.pl:8080/ and the code for running these jobs is available at https://github.com/deejay1/openstack-jobs I hope you'll find this useful ;) Now I can get back to the translation itself... Best regards, -- Łukasz [DeeJay1] Jernaś

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IRC meeting tomorrow
by Ying Chun Guo 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Hi, I18n meeting will be hosted at Feb. 6th 0700 UTC, which would be the first thing I do at the beginning of a Chinese new year. :) We could cover following topics in this meeting. Feel free to propose other topics which you are interested. * Update on log messages translation plan * Push on the translation of "installation guide" * Work items in Feb * Open discussion Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Problem with building translated install docs
by Łukasz Jernaś 01 Feb '14

01 Feb '14

Hi! Has something changed lately in the manuals? I'm trying to build the install-guide from the openstack-manuals repo, but I end up with: [deejay1@betty install-guide]$ mvn clean generate-sources -B [INFO] Scanning for projects... [ERROR] The build could not read 1 project -> [Help 1] [ERROR] [ERROR] The project org.openstack.docs:openstack-install-guide:1.0.0-SNAPSHOT (/home/deejay1/PRACA/cloud/openstack-manuals/generated/pl_PL/install-guide/pom.xml) has 1 error [ERROR] Non-resolvable parent POM: Could not find artifact org.openstack.docs:parent-pom:pom:1.0.0-SNAPSHOT and 'parent.relativePath' points at wrong local POM @ line 4, column 13 -> [Help 2] [ERROR] [ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the -e switch. [ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging. [ERROR] [ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions, please read the following articles: [ERROR] [Help 1] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/ProjectBuildingException [ERROR] [Help 2] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/UnresolvableModelException Changing the path in the pom.xml results in other errors: [error] jar:file:/home/deejay1/.m2/repository/com/rackspace/cloud/api/clouddocs-maven-plugin/1.13.0/clouddocs-maven-plugin-1.13.0.jar!/pdf.xpl:99:62:XInclude resource error (../common/section_dochistory.xml) and no fallback provided. [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [INFO] BUILD FAILURE [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [INFO] Total time: 7.066s [INFO] Finished at: Fri Jan 31 17:11:09 CET 2014 [INFO] Final Memory: 16M/214M [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ERROR] Failed to execute goal com.rackspace.cloud.api:clouddocs-maven-plugin:1.13.0:generate-webhelp (generate-webhelp) on project openstack-install-guide: Execution generate-webhelp of goal com.rackspace.cloud.api:clouddocs-maven-plugin:1.13.0:generate-webhelp failed: XInclude resource error (../common/section_dochistory.xml) and no fallback provided. XProc error err:XD0011: I/O error reported by XML parser processing file:/home/deejay1/PRACA/cloud/openstack-manuals/generated/pl_PL/common/section_dochistory.xml: /home/deejay1/PRACA/cloud/openstack-manuals/generated/pl_PL/common/section_dochistory.xml (Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu) -> [Help 1] [ERROR] I have gnome-doc-utils-0.20.10-5.fc20.noarch Any hints? -- Łukasz [DeeJay1] Jernaś

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Fake Conferences CSCI and WORLDCOMP of Hamid Arabnia
by hailybrown＠hushmail.com 30 Jan '14

30 Jan '14

Fake Conferences CSCI and WORLDCOMP of Hamid Arabnia If you have any thought of attending the world’s biggest fake conference in computer science, WORLDCOMP http://www.world-academy-of-science.org you must visit any websites below https://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 or https://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf https://sites.google.com/site/moneycomp1 https://sites.google.com/site/worlddump4 The organizer of this conference is Hamid Arabnia http://www.cs.uga.edu/~hra a professor from University of Georgia, Athens, US. The primary goal of this conference is to collect registration fee by accepting all submitted papers. Several fake papers were published in the conference proceedings. He already earned millions of dollars from the registration fee and is using part of the money for anti-Christmas greetings campaign. http://worldcomp-fake-bogus.blogspot.com has additional information on this campaign. He recently started another new conference CSCI due to his hunger for money http://www.americancse.org Hamid Arabnia failed to reveal the reviews and reviewers' information for all the papers he received, despite repeated requests and challenges. The reason for his failure is there were no reviews and reviewers and he just cheated the research community for more than a decade by announcing that each draft paper is reviewed by two experts. We challenge him to publish these details at the conference website. Where are these experts? Where are these reviews? Soon he comes up with a story that he lost all the reviews and reviewers’ information because of computer crash or theft. DBLP stopped indexing these conferences since 2011 and displayed an explicit message; The DBLP Advisory Board decided to discontinue indexing of this conference series. Visit http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/conf/biocomp/index.html as a sample. He was forced to remove his name, the university of Georgia name, and university of Georgia email address from the conference’s contact page because the University has banned him from doing that. Do not spoil your resume by publishing in this bogus conference. Wikipedia’s comments on Hamid Arabnia are at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hamid_Arabnia&oldid Additional information on this conference bogus conference is available by searching internet using the keywords worldcomp fake or Hamid Arabnia fake Apologies for posting to multiple mailing lists. Spreading the news is the only way to stop this conference from harming innocent researchers. Respectfully, Many researchers cheated by Hamid Arabnia’s fake conferences

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Translation for Havana stable update (2013.2.2)
by Akihiro Motoki 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

Hi team, The next stable update release of Havana (2013.2.2) will be scheduled next week. After the previous release 2013.2.1, we have a few typo fixes in Horizon. Two strings are already changed and a couple of strings are under review. I have just synced Transifex Havana resources with the latest Horizon repo and will keep up-to-date. You will see OpenStack dashboard translation with 99%. The update must be a work with several minutes. I will import the latest Transifex translation after next Sunday 24UTC. Thanks, Akihiro

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What's up, I18n team
by Ying Chun Guo 29 Jan '14

29 Jan '14

Recently, below items are ongoing and I'd like to have you updated. * Installation guide translation Several translation teams are working on its translation. The Japanese translation is completed finished. Korean and German have more than 50% completed. Russian, Chinese and Portuguese have certain progress. Many thanks for the excellent work of these teams. Feb. 28 is a good date to close this translation work. After that, we will start the messages translation. If you want the installation guide in your own language to be published in Icehouse cycle, please try your best to catch the date. * Scripts and automation jobs to publish translated documents The script to publish Japanese operations guide is running well now: https://jenkins02.openstack.org/job/openstack-operations-guide-ja/ The link to Japanese operations guide which is generated by a Jenkins job is: http://docs.openstack.org/ja/trunk/openstack-ops/ Many thanks to Tom Fifield 's work. The resource of openstack-ops in Transifex is updated to date recently. There are a few changes. There come a few strings remained untranslated in Japanese translation of openstack-ops. I see some English strings remained in the generated Japanese operation guide. Japanese team please take a look at it. * Horizon translation resources in Transifex There are two categories in Horizon in Transifex now. The "havana-stable" category contains the translation resources for havana-stable release. The "main" category contains the translation resources for the current main branch, which will be released in Icehouse version. I have synchronized the resources under "main" category manually with git repository. At the same time, I'm working on the scripts to automatic the synchronization https://review.openstack.org/68042 If you want, you could start Horizon translations from now. Then you will have an ease time in March after string freeze date (on March 6th). * An enhance to Horizon I18n Now some table columns in Horizon are not able to translated. See the bug description: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1224329 Peng Wu is working on it. He has proposed a fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68868/ People who are interested in Horizon can take a look at it. * Add support for translating log levels separately Doug Hellmann from Oslo team is working on it. When this function is enabled, we are able to separate log messages from the big single message resource file. Then we can focus on the user facing messages translation and set the log message translation to low priority. The discussion thread in dev ML is: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/025572.html The patch is under construction now: https://review.openstack.org/65518 People who has interests could join the discussion. Things that we will work on in Feb are: * Finish installation guide translations. * Write scripts and create jobs to publish these installation guides in different languages. * Set up Horizon messages translation environment in Transifex Our next IRC meeting is on Feb 6th. If you have questions/suggestions to the above items, or you want to help on these things, send email to me, or talk to me in the next IRC meeting. Happy Chinese New Year! Thanks and regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Self Intro
by Peng Wu 27 Jan '14

27 Jan '14

Hi all, I am an i18n software engineer from Red Hat. I plan to participate in openstack i18n development. Nice to meet you all! Regards, Peng Wu

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.tx in git repository
by Ying Chun Guo 23 Jan '14

23 Jan '14

Hello I noticed some repositories contain .tx folder but some don't. The repositories that contain .tx include: openstack-manuals, operations-guide, horizon and django_openstack_auth. The others, like nova, swift, and etc, don't. .tx contains some configuration information used by Transifex client. It could be created by command: tx init ... Since it has no relationship with the source codes of OpenStack, I'm thinking if we could remove .tx from git repositories. And what's more, there is a risk that the changes to .tx in script "propose_translation_update_manuals.sh" would break this script. Thoughts? Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Horizon patch with translation impact (havana)
by Ying Chun Guo 15 Jan '14

15 Jan '14

Hi, Julie I think it's time to consider the automation synchronization between Horizon source code and Transifex resources. The general solution now in community is to use Jenkins jobs. Most of openstack projects use this method to synchronize their PoT files with Transifex resources. There are two kinds of jobs: #1 A job after a commit event in git to generate PoT files and update Transifex resources if the PoT files are changed. #2 A regular job to download translations and create a gerrit review request to merge po files. I think, it's no question for Horizon to use #1 to update Transifex resources automatically. How about #2 ? I remember originally Horizon team disabled automatics downloading because messy characters in po.en would cause broken in Horizon test. Now this issue has been resolved. So I wonder if Horizon would like to adopt #2 to enable the automatics translation downloading now. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) Julie Pichon <jpichon(a)redhat.com> wrote on 2014/01/09 18:42:30: > Julie Pichon <jpichon(a)redhat.com> > 2014/01/09 18:42 > > To > > Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN, > > cc > > Subject > > Re: [Openstack-i18n] Horizon patch with translation impact (havana) > > Hello Daisy, > > Thank you for your reply! Did you mean to send this email only to me? I think > it would be useful to reply to the list to have the answer available in the > archives, too - I'll be happy to resend my own answer as well. > > "Ying Chun Guo" <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com> wrote: > > Hi, Julie > > > > The Horizon translation resources for Havana have been renamed with a > > prefix "Havana" in Transifex. > > The update is not automatic, both from source codes to Transifex and from > > Transifex to source codes. > > We could synchronize these resources with source codes. But we need to do > > it manually. > > Understood, thank you for the information! > > > Although we don't have plan to update stable/havana translations, there is > > no stop for translators to do it. > > > > Are there any plan to release a new version of Horizon stable? > > If there is, we can call for translators support to update translations. > > There are 3 more Havana releases planned [0]. I imagine the string > changes will > be very minimal, more and more so. > > Cheers, > > Julie > > > [0] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ > StableBranchRelease#Planned_stable.2Fhavana_releases > > > > > Best regards > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > > > > Julie Pichon <jpichon(a)redhat.com> wrote on 2014/01/09 01:26:27: > > > > > Julie Pichon <jpichon(a)redhat.com> > > > 2014/01/09 01:26 > > > > > > To > > > > > > "openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org" > > <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org>, > > > > > > cc > > > > > > Subject > > > > > > [Openstack-i18n] Horizon patch with translation impact (havana) > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I submitted a backport to Havana [0] that corrects a mistake in a help > > > message, but I'm not quite sure if we're still planning on updating the > > > stable/havana translations. If you don't feel it's appropriate in this > > > case, please feel free to -1/-2 the patch. Thank you! > > > > > > ...Also if the discussions on the translation update schedules for > > > stable and master have been summarised somewhere, please let me know. > > > I can't recall the decided outcome. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Julie > > > > > > [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65506/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Openstack-i18n mailing list > > > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > > >

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IRC meeting tomorrow
by Ying Chun Guo 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

Hi, Let's have our first team meeting in 2014 tomorrow. Follow our agenda, we will meet at 0000 UTC in IRC channel #openstack-meeting. I plan to check the "Installation guide" translation progress, and discuss about the actions and plans to publish our translations to document website. If you have other topics, welcome to bring up. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Horizon patch with translation impact (havana)
by Julie Pichon 08 Jan '14

08 Jan '14

Hi, I submitted a backport to Havana [0] that corrects a mistake in a help message, but I'm not quite sure if we're still planning on updating the stable/havana translations. If you don't feel it's appropriate in this case, please feel free to -1/-2 the patch. Thank you! ...Also if the discussions on the translation update schedules for stable and master have been summarised somewhere, please let me know. I can't recall the decided outcome. Thanks, Julie [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65506/

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Happy New Year :)
by Kang Sungjin 02 Jan '14

02 Jan '14

Happy New Year, :)) 새해 복 많이 받으세요. :)) Thanks, Sungjin Kang

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Happy new year Team ~~~!!!
by Sungjin Kang 31 Dec '13

31 Dec '13

Happy new year ~~~~~ !! :)) 새해에 복 많이 만드시길 :)) Thanks, Sungjin.

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Cancel the team meeting on January 2nd
by Ying Chun Guo 24 Dec '13

24 Dec '13

Hello, Christmas and New Year holidays come. I'm going to cancel our team meeting on January 2nd. Based on our plan[1], now some translation teams should be busy with "Installation guide" translation. In our next meeting (January 16th), we will check the progress of "Installation guide" translation. @ Translation teams who has not created your own wiki page[2], please work out 1 page for your translation team. [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2013-December/000358.ht… [2] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2013-December/000360.ht… Thanks and regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] [Openstack-docs] Operations Guide Transifex update
by Akihiro Motoki 23 Dec '13

23 Dec '13

Thanks for the clarification of the status. I am now exploring the infrastructure scripts, though I don't have enough time to work on them at the moment. Regarding Operations guide, I am working Japanese translation to up-to-date by forking the git repository. The translated version will be updated soon. Akihiro On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Anne Gentle <annegentle(a)justwriteclick.com> wrote: > The work to get the infrastructure that will enable this automation is > underway. Please follow > https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-doc-tools,n,z > to help with the effort. > > Anne > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Tom Fifield <tom(a)openstack.org> wrote: >> >> On 20/12/13 21:41, Akihiro Motoki wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Transifex resource of the operations guide has not been updated from >> > this May. >> > While other resources from openstack-manuals are updated regularly, >> > it seems ops-guide is not updated. Let me confirm. >> > >> > It the repository of operations-guide not covered by Jenkins jobs? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Akihiro >> >> The operations guide moved repositories, but infrastructure scripts were >> never properly updated. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openstack-docs mailing list >> Openstack-docs(a)lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs > > > > > -- > Anne Gentle > annegentle(a)justwriteclick.com

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Create a wiki page for your local translation team
by Ying Chun Guo 21 Dec '13

21 Dec '13

Hi, In order to attract more translators and clearly guide them to start contribution, I re-organized our team's wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam. In the new version, there is a place to introduce each local translation team. See: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam#Local_Translation_Teams. @ Coordinators, please create a child wiki page (either in English or in your own language) under /I18nTeam to introduce your translation team with below information at least: contact information, main page if you have, and the work items you are working on. For example, I created /I18nTeam/zh_cn to introduce Chinese translation team. Feel free to add more information to your local team page if you want. Now we have pages for Chinese (China), English (Australia)，and Korean. You can use them as samples. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks and regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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(no subject)
by Akihiro Motoki 20 Dec '13

20 Dec '13

Hi, Transifex resource of the operations guide has not been updated from this May. While other resources from openstack-manuals are updated regularly, it seems ops-guide is not updated. Let me confirm. It the repository of operations-guide not covered by Jenkins jobs? Thanks, Akihiro

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I18n team meeting tomorrow
by Ying Chun Guo 17 Dec '13

17 Dec '13

Hi, all We will have our meeting at 0000UTC on Thursday (Dec 19th) in IRC channel #openstack-meeting. The time, we use Asia/America friendly time. Welcome to join the meeting. This time, we will cover following topics this time: "Installation guide" translation mobilization Wiki page for translation team Open discussion If you want to join the meeting but you are not comfortable with the time, please let me know. Thanks and regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Translation plan in Icehouse and call for participation
by Ying Chun Guo 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

Hi, In Icehouse, I plan to finish 1 book translation and do messages translation. * Messages translation According to the release schedule, the string freeze date is March 4th. So we will start message translation one month early, i.e. Feb 4th. * Document translation "Installation guide" is a good choice, because: a> It's a round 20k words. (not big as our first practise.) b> It is "stable" among different releases because it has been stripped to be basic. Only new sections will be added for new releases. The existing content should not be changed a lot. So I'm going to start the translation of "Installation guide" from now. Let's target for 1 month to complete the translation, i.e. January 12th is the end date. After that we will spend two or three weeks to make them on-line in the doc website. Then we will have Openstack installation guide for different languages. The resources in Transifex is: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/openstack-manuals-i18n/resource/instal… and some are in: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/openstack-manuals-i18n/resource/common/ How do you feel this plan? Do your translation team want to join this plan for installation guide? Please let me know your thoughts. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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use dict-based substitution instead of index-based?
by Chris K 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

Hello i18n team, I came across a question today I was unable to find the answer for. The question arose from a review I was looking over. Should I18n translated strings should use dict-based substitution instead of index-based? LOG.debug(_('stdout is: "%s"') % blah) vs. LOG.debug(_('stdout is: "%(blah)s"') % {'blah': blah}) Thank you, Chris Krelle

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Consensus on translation update deadline for future stable update
by Akihiro Motoki 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

As you may know, I discussed the deadline of translation import for stable release update with stable-maint team and we have a good consensus on it. It applies to future stable maintenance updates too. For the stable maintenance updates, the deadline of translation updates from I18N team is freeze+3 days. It is worth documented in StableBranch wiki page. Although it sometimes be short when considering holidays/vacations or other reasons, IMO 3 days is a enough period to catch up our translations because stable updates would not have many string updates. As a next step we should have a similar consensus for normal release. The situation for normal release is different from stable updates, but it is important to make translation updates (I18N team work) a part of the release process. I believe Daisy will coordinate the discussion. Thanks, Akihiro

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Translation update in Havana stable release
by Ying Chun Guo 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

Hi, The Chinese translations of Horizon have been updated. Please import the new version into Havana stable release. @ all translation teams, if you improved Horizon translation after Oct. 12th , (I think Oct. 12th was the last translation update date before the official Havana release.) please let us know. Then your update will be merged into Havana stable release. Thank you. Regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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stable/havana Horizon translation update: FFE possibility?
by Akihiro Motoki 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

Hi stable team, (Cc: I18N team) I18N and Horizon team would like to update Horizon translations for havana 2013.2.1 update. Several translation fixes have been done in Transifex and there are several patches which fixes wrong strings in Horizon. However, some of them were merged just a few days ago and some of them are under review[1]. To allow translators to update and validate their translations, I would like to request FFE of updating Horizon translations My current plan is to propose a patch of translation update Sunday. The patch update POT files (source language, English) and PO files of each languages. (Note that the patch is not a backport and proposed to stable/havana directly since strings are different in both branches.) [1] Patches with string fixes under review. I hope they will be a part of the next update. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58103/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58139/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59916/ Thanks, Akihiro

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