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Scheduling a Pootle demonstration
by Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph 23 Jul '14

23 Jul '14

Hi everyone, I work on the OpenStack infrastructure team and we're planning on supporting your team with whichever choice for translations tool you decide upon. There was just a Zanata demo this week, and I've reached out to the Pootle project at Daisy's request to organize a similar demo some time next week. The individual from Pootle who has volunteered to give the demo is in the UTC+1 time zone and has asked for some timing proposals from the team for when we can attend a demo so he can check his schedule and we can settle on a time. Suggestions? As a reminder, the infrastructure team set up a demo site for Pootle last October, details about this demo site can be found here if you wish to poke around: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2013-October/000209.html Thanks. -- Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph || Lyz || pleia2 http://www.princessleia.com

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Collaboration in Catalan translation
by Robla Mota, Yolanda 17 Jul '14

17 Jul '14

Hi, I'm Yolanda Robla. I work for HP , mostly in projects related to Openstack-Infra. I saw that there is an entry for catalan translation for Openstack and I'd like to collaborate with it. What should be the best way to start? Best Yolanda Robla Mota Cloud automation and Distribution Engineer yolanda.robla-mota(a)hp.com +34 605641639 Spain

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IRC meeting tomorrow
by Ying Chun Guo 16 Jul '14

16 Jul '14

Hello, all Tomorrow is the third Thursday of July, and we will have our meeting at 0000 UTC in IRC. In my mind, I have the following to discuss: * Design of translators contribution scoring system * Documents' categorization * New time slot for the second IRC meeting every month * Open discussion This IRC meeting is especially for Asia/North/South America because of the friendly time slot. Other topics are welcomed too. So let's meet there if you are available. Thanks and regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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French user-guide published
by Andreas Jaeger 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

FYI, http://docs.openstack.org/draft-i18n-manuals.html contains now a link to the French user-guide which is partly (76 per cent) translated! Congrats to the French team! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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transifex allows new repo setup again...
by Andreas Jaeger 04 Jul '14

04 Jul '14

The transifex problem we had - see yesterday's IRC meeting - has been fixed for us finally. I've just setup new repos barbican, marconi, oslo.db and oslo.messaging and sent a patch for the usual infra jobs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98238/ IMHO, oslo.db and oslo.messaging could be translated. Barbican and marconi are not part of the integrated release, so I would give them lower priority, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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New translated manuals: Chinese and Korean api-quick-starts
by Andreas Jaeger 03 Jul '14

03 Jul '14

Congratulations to the Chinese and Korean translation teams: They have translated the api-quick-start guide and it's now available here: http://docs.openstack.org/zh_CN/api/quick-start/content/index.html http://docs.openstack.org/ko_KR/api/quick-start/content/index.html You can reach them also from the drafts manual page: http://docs.openstack.org/draft-i18n-manuals.html - but only after an update has been approved (https://review.openstack.org/104682 ). The guides are published whenever api-site changes. If the Chinese and/or Korean teams - or the Spanish one as well - like to have a separate translated manual page like we have in French, German, and Japanese, please propose a patch in the openstack-manuals repository, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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IRC meeting tomorrow
by Ying Chun Guo 02 Jul '14

02 Jul '14

Hello, team Let's have our IRC meeting tomorrow at 0800 UTC in #openstack-meeting. I'm going to address below topics: * New translation tool and new I18n library update * Document translation plan discussion * Discuss: another ending punctuation question ( http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2014-July/000669.html) * Open discussion Other discussions are welcomed too. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Another ending punctuation question
by Douglas Fish 01 Jul '14

01 Jul '14

We have a couple of Horizon code reviews that are representing the same translatable string is 2 different ways. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102897/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88246/ in the horizon/templates/horizon/common/_resource_browser.html part It would be great to get i18n feedback on which way is easier to translate that segment. Thanks! Doug Fish

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] [openstack-dev] [nova][i18n] why isn't the client translated?
by Sungjin Kang 30 Jun '14

30 Jun '14

forwarding I18n Team. -- About.me 부터: Matt Riedemann mriedem(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com 답장: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev(a)lists.openstack.org 날짜: 2014년 7월 1일 at 오전 12:02:41 에게: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev(a)lists.openstack.org 제목: [openstack-dev] [nova][i18n] why isn't the client translated? I noticed that there is no locale directory or setup.cfg entry for babel, which surprises me. The v1_1 shell in python-novaclient has a lot of messages marked for translation using the _() function but the v3 shell doesn't, presumably because someone figured out we don't translate the client messages anyway. I'm just wondering why we don't translate the client? -- Thanks, Matt Riedemann _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev(a)lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

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[OpenStack-i18n] How can i make translation document?
by Sungjin Kang 26 Jun '14

26 Jun '14

Hi~ I finished translation for api-quick-start document. And checking document… Not find ./tools/generatedocbook . I think used Wiki Tool. Merging script.[1] > make Web document. A um… two month ago. How can i make translation document??? Thanks, Sungjin. [1]: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18n/Tools#Merging_script -- About.me

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Skip I18n meeting tomorrow
by Ying Chun Guo 18 Jun '14

18 Jun '14

Hello, all I'm out of office and is not able to host the meeting at UTC 0000 tomorrow. So let's skip the meeting this time. In the next meeting on July 3rd, we could discuss: * Document translation and publish plans in different language teams. * Progress report about new I18n library for log messages. * Continued discuss of "translatable strings rules" * Open discussion Please get prepared. Thank you. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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The meaning of a string to be translated
by Ying Chun Guo 09 Jun '14

09 Jun '14

"Network Duration": What does "duration" mean? Is it equal to "usage time"? Daisy

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speed up translation workflow in transifex
by Carsten Duch 03 Jun '14

03 Jun '14

Hello, I'm quite new in the translation-team so I have a few question regarding the workflow with transifex. I’ve found a lot of untranslated phrases with only slightly changed text. So to speed up the translation, it is rather easy by simply changing the existing suggestions. To speed up the translation process, is there a way to do a combined searchquery within transifex like the following example? translated: no AND has suggestion: yes AND suggestion rate: > 80% Another problem while doing translations is that I'm sometimes unable to translate it correctly because I'm missing the original context of the phrase. I could open the original documentation in another browser-tab and search manually for the phrase, but that's not really efficient. Any suggestions? Thanx! Carsten

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I18n meeting this Thursday
by Ying Chun Guo 03 Jun '14

03 Jun '14

Hello, team We will have our first I18n meeting in Juno release on June 5th at 0800 UTC in #openstack-meeting. We could discuss following items: Atlanta summit report from Daisy I18n plans in Juno Horizon translatable strings rules (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18n/TranslatableStrings) Open discussions I'm re-evaluating the meeting time. Now we have regular meetings in two different times slots alternately: 0800UTC and 0000UTC. If you want to attend but the times are not good for you, please let me know. I could change them. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Italian Translation volunteer
by Pier Alberto Pierini 03 Jun '14

03 Jun '14

Good Evening, my name is Pier Alberto Pierini, I'm Italian but leave in Canada in this moment. Because I'm very interested in your Openstack project and because I'm learning Python from last year, I would like to help you with the italian translation of your project. I'm not a translator but in this moment I think is the only field I can help you. My Transfix id is PierAlberto. Thank yuo in advance. Pier Alberto

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Translation of log messages
by Andreas Jaeger 30 May '14

30 May '14

Hi translators, Clark and Doug, to translate log messages, Doug has been working on having these in separate domains. That way translators can decide what to translate: User visible strings, info log messages, warning log messages, error log messages, or critical log messages. The base work is done in oslo and now we need to setup the tools to extra these for separate domains. Based on input from Doug and Clark and the existing blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/log-messages-translation-domain… I created a first patch for our jobs that upload to and import from transifex. I would like review comments on it: https://review.openstack.org/95377/ Before this goes in, we need to add the new domains to transifex, I plan to setup everything for this properly - so this is also a heads-up for coming changes. Translators, once this is in, you will see additional domains - I suggest to ignore those for now and concentrate on the normal ones. As an example, for nova, you will see besides the current nova-translations resource additionally: nova-log-error-translations, nova-log-warning-translations, nova-log-critical-translations, nova-log-info-translations. Note that I will rework this patch if my patch for creating common functions for all translation jobs gets positive review and would appreciate your review of that one as well: https://review.openstack.org/95345 Clark, this is a followup to an IRC discussion you had with Doug on 19 Dec, 2013. Translation team, I'll inform you once everything is setup, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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New localized doc web pages
by Andreas Jaeger 30 May '14

30 May '14

The API Quick Start has been translated to French, German, Japanese and Spanish! We now have German and French index pages: http://docs.openstack.org/de/ http://docs.openstack.org/fr/ (proposed - see https://review.openstack.org/96444) For all the guides that are not mentioned on a specific page, we now have a "secret" page which is not reachable from the main index pages: http://docs.openstack.org/draft-i18n-manuals.html It lists all the other guides that are currently built. That way translation teams can easily verify their manuals. If you like to move one of them to "official" pages, feel free to send a patch! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Japanese End User Guide and Admin User Guide
by Andreas Jaeger 29 May '14

29 May '14

[Resending to i18n list - send to -docs initially] The Japanese team has done a great job translating these two guides! I just tried to build them and got hit by build errors. Could somebody investigate this, please? Once it works again, tell me and I can enable testing and publishing in openstack-manuals. I filled a bug for tracking: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1324007 Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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by Danilo Ingami 26 May '14

26 May '14

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Complete translations are big
by Douglas Fish 26 May '14

26 May '14

I've come across this review for automated translations coming into Horizon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91523/ It concerns me that it has over a half million LOC in it, and many of these languages have near 0 translation. (I checked here: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/horizon/) 0 translation languages have just as many lines as full translations; they are just shorter. I can't give you a specific well-defined issue about why this concerns me, but I'm worried about things like how big it might make our distributions, or adding time to how long it takes to clone a new Horizon instance, or use devstack. I've chatted a bit about this in #openstack-horizon. ajaeger has pointed out to me that this isn't the biggest patch we've had for translations. This one, for example, is 5 million lines: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67521/ This doesn't entirely satisfy me because git clone https://review.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-manuals is taking several minutes for me this morning (full disclosure: I am having some network flakiness today). I'd hate for Horizon to take anywhere near that long to clone. Also in #openstack-horizon jpich has shared that we intend to prune some of these langauges out of Horizon as we approach the release. Maybe it would be best to begin that pruning now, to avoid late dev cycle churn? Does anyone else share my concern about the large size of these translations? Particularly the translations that have near 0 translated strings. Doug Fish

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Korean and Japanese Translations of openstack-manuals broken
by Andreas Jaeger 24 May '14

24 May '14

Please see: http://logs.openstack.org/84/95084/1/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-check… 2014-05-23 06:27:40.010 | checksyntax runtests: commands[1] | bash -c find doc -type f -regex '.*\.pot?' -print0|xargs -0 -n 1 msgfmt --check-format -o /dev/null 2014-05-23 06:27:40.041 | /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-checksyntax$ /bin/bash -c find doc -type f -regex '.*\.pot?' -print0|xargs -0 -n 1 msgfmt --check-format -o /dev/null 2014-05-23 06:27:40.386 | doc/common/locale/ja.po:14398: end-of-file within string 2014-05-23 06:27:40.386 | doc/common/locale/ja.po:14397: missing `msgstr' section 2014-05-23 06:27:40.387 | msgfmt: found 2 fatal errors 2014-05-23 06:27:40.672 | doc/security-guide/locale/ja.po:2920: end-of-file within string 2014-05-23 06:27:40.672 | msgfmt: found 1 fatal error 2014-05-23 06:27:40.739 | doc/install-guide/locale/ja.po:4335: end-of-file within string 2014-05-23 06:27:40.739 | doc/install-guide/locale/ja.po:4332: missing `msgstr' section 2014-05-23 06:27:40.739 | msgfmt: found 2 fatal errors 2014-05-23 06:27:40.768 | doc/install-guide/locale/ko_KR.po:5278:25: incomplete multibyte sequence at end of file 2014-05-23 06:27:40.768 | doc/install-guide/locale/ko_KR.po:5278: end-of-file within string 2014-05-23 06:27:40.768 | msgfmt: found 2 fatal errors Patch: https://review.openstack.org/95084 Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Translatable strings rules
by Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis 23 May '14

23 May '14

I made a first draft about Translatable strings rules: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18n/TranslatableStrings Please feel free to comment :-) -- Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis

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Translation gate for doc jobs
by Andreas Jaeger 22 May '14

22 May '14

Inspired by some discussions here at the summit, I'd like to setup some translation gate for jobs. Patch https://review.openstack.org/93526 (merged) sets up a test that can be invoked with "tox -e checklang" which builds all "supported" manuals. I propose the following: * Setup checking/gating jobs that runs this test and mark it as non-voting. * Create policy on how to handle failures. Proposed policy: * We only gate on manual/language combinations that are translated sufficiently. Right now that's for openstack-manuals Japanese with the Security Guide, HA Guide and Install Guides only. * If an import from transifex fails, creates a failure, we do not approve the import. * If any other patch fails, the failure might get ignored. * In any case of failure, let's send an email to the openstack-i18n mailing list asking them to investigate and fix. What do you think? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Japanese Security Guide fails to build
by Andreas Jaeger 22 May '14

22 May '14

We now check the translations in the gate and I noticed that the Security Guide fails to build: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1322224 This looks some tools issue, any help on how to fix this is welcome! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Japanese install-deploy guide failing
by Andreas Jaeger 13 May '14

13 May '14

Hi, I noticed that the Japanese Install Guide is failing, e.g.: https://jenkins05.openstack.org/job/openstack-install-deploy-guide-ja/102/ could somebody help, please? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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