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Specialty teams connecting to translation team
by Anne Gentle 19 Jun '15

19 Jun '15

Hi all, I'm sitting here in Vancouver next to Daisy (Ying Chun Guo) who leads the i18N efforts for OpenStack. She would like each specialty team lead to connect with the i18N team to communicate the amount of change expected so that they can evaluate the timing of translation, and how much is done that can be translated. We also had a session with the i18N team and want to work on more communication with each team, and I think the specialty team leads are a great way to start that effort. Thoughts or ideas? Let us know. Thanks, Anne -- Anne Gentle annegentle(a)justwriteclick.com

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common (RST) translation
by KATO Tomoyuki 18 Jun '15

18 Jun '15

Hi team, I'm translating User Guides (RST) recently. I found a below problem. Any thought? Problem: Each message catalog "pot" file contains all strings of the RST document, including "common" files (glossary and so on). In particular, "user-guide" and "user-guide-admin" resource at Transifex have same strings in "common" files respectively. This causes unintended inconsistency of translation. In fact, Japanese "user-guide" and "user-guide-admin" have different translated strings, which need to sync manually. Solution (just my idea): As is: 1. Sphinx(?) generates the "pot" file. 2. translate at Transifex. 3. Sphinx(?) merge the translated strings. To be: 1. Sphinx(?) generates the "pot" file. 2. A new script split message stringss for "common". (maybe, based on "msgcat") So, generate 2 resources (main document resource and "common" resource). 3. translate at Transifex. 4. merge the 2 resources for Sphinx(?). 5. Sphinx(?) merge the translated strings. Regards, KATO Tomoyuki

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Criteria of core members and active members
by Ying Chun Guo 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

Hello, In today's IRC meeting, we discussed about the criteria of core members and active members. Here are some outputs. If you don't joined the discussion, please comment here. -------- I18n Core Contributors The coordinator of active language teams, who coordinates Dashboard translation or two documents translations during the previous two release cycles and attend team meetings at least once a month, will be granted as "I18n Core Contributors" I18n Active Contributors Translators or reviewers, who translate or review more than 200 words during the previous two release cycles, will be granted as "I18n Active Contributors" Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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IRC Meeting
by Ying Chun Guo 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

Hello, team We will have the IRC meeting at UTC 1300 in the channel #openstack-meeting, on June 18th. I'm going to cover following topics: * Review translation terminologies * Open discussions If you have other topics, feel free to propose. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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French User Guide publication
by KATO Tomoyuki 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

Hi fdot, I noticed draft "fr/user-guide" link is broken[1]. Do you know what is the present situation? [1] http://docs.openstack.org/draft/draft-index.html Reagards, KATO Tomoyuki

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Turkish translation
by Hüseyin Çotuk 16 Jun '15

16 Jun '15

Dear All, My name is Huseyin Cotuk, and i have been using OpenStack for more than 3 years in production. I am working for the Turkish government and we operate an OpenStack cloud for governmental institutions, universities, other research institutes and internal projects. Currently we have more than 4000 cpu cores, 500 TBytes of storage and so on. I am head of cloud department at TUBITAK ULAKBIM in Turkey, and while OpenStack Days Istanbul yesterday, we met with Jonathan and Lauren. We talked about our projects and i promised for the Turkish translation of OpenStack dashboard for the Turkish community. My organization TUBITAK ULAKBIM is also coordinating national operating system (Pardus), and we already have a translation team for this OS. We will work together with this translation team, and my team will review the translations after OS team finishes. My transifex id is huseyincotuk and the project name is openstack_turkish. I am looking forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Huseyin

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Thought on String Freeze
by Akihiro Motoki 16 Jun '15

16 Jun '15

Hi I18N folks, # Congratulation for the official I18N project!! I first thought to send this mail to the dev list, but it seems better to share my thought in the I18N folks first. Problems ========== I am feeling that String Freeze does not work well in the past several releases.There are several I think we should not apply String Freeze for projects for which not so many translators work on. As far as I understand, Horizon and documentations are targets for most translations in the past several releases. On the other hands, core reviewers of projects other than Horizon and docs (including keystone) were taking care of String Freeze exception WELL. My Proposal ============= Considering the current status, I think we should limit "String Freeze" only to projects which translators are interested in. My idea is to declare projects we would like to enable "String Freeze" just after Liberty-3 is cut. By doing so, other projects no longer need to take care of String Freeze exception. (Note that the freeze date of the documentation projects are different and we can apply some different policy on documentations). Thought? I cannot join the team meeting tomorrow due to LinuxCon/CloudOpen Japan, but I hope you will share your thought on this topic. Thanks, Akihiro

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Fwd: [openstack-dev] [horizon][i18n] Ordering of PO files
by Tom Fifield 09 Jun '15

09 Jun '15

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [openstack-dev] [horizon][i18n] Ordering of PO files Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 17:28:39 -0600 From: Thai Q Tran <tqtran(a)us.ibm.com> Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev(a)lists.openstack.org> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev(a)lists.openstack.org> Hi folks, In the midst of shifting to angular, we are making use of babel for extracting messages. This would then allow us to write a custom extractor for angular templates. Here's the patch that compare PO files: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189502/ It looks worse than reality, if you compare the django vs babel makemessages, they are nearly identical, only the ordering is different. Which leads me to my next point. If the ordering of the translatable strings are not the same, how does that affect translation (if at all)?

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I18n team working sessions in Vancouver
by Ying Chun Guo 05 Jun '15

05 Jun '15

Hello, all We had a great day yesterday. There were two I18n team working sessions. People from Japanese, Frech, Russian, Polish, Chinese and Chinese Taiwan team attended. Key persons from Doc team, infra team, and Horizon dev team joined the discussions too. We made good progress with glossaries, document translations, string freeze, tool migration, and etc. More details could be found in the etherpad pages [1] [2]. Yet our translators still want more face to face communications. So I organize an ad hoc meeting on Wednesday afternoon, only for translators. If you are translators and in Vancouver summit now, come to join the ad hoc meeting. The place is at a round table outside the Room 1, East Building at the Vancouver Convention Centre. The time is from 2:05pm to 5:05pm on Wednesday, May 21st. I will sit there and wait for you to join. I created an Etherpad page for us to track the discussion. Feel free to add the topics you want to cover. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vancouver-translation-team-workshop Thank you. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Vancouver-I18n-WG-session [2] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Vancouver-I18n-Translation-platform-session

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I18n team, OpenStack Project Team!
by Ying Chun Guo 04 Jun '15

04 Jun '15

Hello, all I'm pleased to announce that I18n team is approved by TC to become a OpenStack Project Team. We are now under the authority of the OpenStack Technical Committee. In return, we could get some space and time to discuss our future development at the Design Summits. Our contributors could vote in the Technical Committee election. This is a great milestone after I18n team was created. Next, we need to figure out the criteria of our core members and active members, which might be different from dev team. We will initialize the core team, then grow the team and increase the contributions. Let's work together to make it a successful team. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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