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IRC meeting today
by Ying Chun Guo 16 Mar '16

16 Mar '16

Hi, team We will have IRC meeting today at UTC 1300 in #openstack-meeting. The agenda in my mind are: * Mitaka translation updates * Open discussions If you have more topics, feel free to add. Best regards Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian
by Ilya Alekseyev 16 Mar '16

16 Mar '16

Dear Daisy, Akihiro, Alex, thank you very much for your investigation and fix of this issue. Kind regards. Ilya Alekseyev 2016-03-15 10:14 GMT+03:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > I think you are right. > plural can be only set once. > After setting, it's not able to change. > > python-neutronclient is fixed. > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> wrote on 03/14/2016 07:21:10 PM: > > > From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> > > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN > > Cc: Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com>, Ilya Alekseyev > > <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org>, "openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org" > > <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > Date: 03/14/2016 07:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian > > > > Hi Daisy, > > > > 2016-03-14 17:33 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > > > Hi, Akihiro > > > > > > I tried to upload a new Russian translation file with the correct > plural > > > formula to django-openstack-auth. > > > And then I downloaded it. Yet the header is not changed at all. > > > I'm afraid uploading po files will not change the header. > > > > I made some tests with nplurals. > > My conclusion is that Zanata allows to update nplurals ONLY ONCE. > > I succeed to change nplural to 2 by putting japanese PO file, but once > > it was changed, > > even though I put Japanese PO file with nplural==1, nplural was not > changed. > > > > I tested it using neutronclient Japanese. > > As an unfortunate result, Japanese resource in neutronclient now have > > the wrong nplurals (2). > > Could you reset neutronclient in Japanese? > > (There is no translation in neutronclient, so we can do this more easily > :-) > > > > Thanks, > > Akihiro > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > > > > > > > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> wrote on 03/12/2016 09:13:09 PM: > > > > > >> From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> > > >> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN > > >> Cc: Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com>, Ilya Alekseyev > > >> <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org>, "openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org" > > >> <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > >> Date: 03/12/2016 09:14 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian > > >> > > >> Hi Daisy, Alex, > > >> > > >> I think the steps Daisy describes is the last resort. > > >> Regarding translation statistics, I have nothing to say as I don't > > >> know any about stats. > > >> > > >> There are a couple of things I would like to note. > > >> > > >> * It is better to first try to upload Russian PO files with > nplurals=3 > > >> even though you failed it last time. > > >> * We need to check other Russian resources other than Horizon. > > >> I checked django-openstack-auth and nova and they have nplurals=4. > > >> There might be more. > > >> At now only Horizon and dashboard-related projects use plural > cases, > > >> so we see this issue only in Horizon now. > > >> > > >> Akihiro > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> 2016-03-11 14:20 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > > >> > Thank you for the investigation, Akihiro and Alex. > > >> > > > >> > Below are the steps we previously used. > > >> > We can follow the same steps, just changing "stable" version to > > > "master" > > >> > version. > > >> > I think the statistic data will not be affected in step 1 to 5. > > >> > But, if we delete master-old, the contribution data in master-old > will > > > be > > >> > removed. > > >> > So my suggestion is to do the same steps, and keep master-old > version > > > (mark > > >> > it as readonly) > > >> > till 6 month or 12 month later when the contribution data is not > that > > >> > important. > > >> > > > >> >> 1. Create Russian translation files with only the correct header > and > > > the > > >> >> pluralities translation items. > > >> >> 2. Create a new version named as russian-fix > > >> >> 3. Upload the source files and the Russian translation files > created > > > in #1 > > >> >> to the version russian-fix > > >> >> 4. Merge the stable version with version russian-fix > > >> >> 5. Rename stable version to stable-old, and rename russian-fix to > > > stable. > > >> > > > >> > Alex and Akihiro, please confirm my proposal. > > >> > Then I can take actions. > > >> > > > >> > Best regards > > >> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com> wrote on 2016/03/11 04:36:15: > > >> > > > >> >> From: Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com> > > >> >> To: Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org> > > >> >> Cc: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/ > > >> >> IBM@IBMCN, "openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org" <openstack- > > >> >> i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > >> >> Date: 2016/03/11 04:37 > > >> >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> Hi, > > >> >> > > >> >> If we fix the plural forms in pot file and push to Zanata, that > > >> >> would not affect the statistics. > > >> >> > > >> >> But I remember last time when we trying to fix this, there are > some > > >> >> limitation of the pluralform wont update after the file is being > > >> >> uploaded once to Zanata. And we have to create a new version with > > >> >> fixed pot file and use "merge translation" feature to bring over > all > > >> >> the translations. > > >> >> > > >> >> We can do the same thing again and the statistics won't be > affected. > > >> >> (copied translation doesn't count in as contribution) > > >> >> > > >> >> I checked and Zanata has the correct form. > > >> >> > > >> >> nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 > && > > >> >> (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2) > > >> >> > > >> >> --------------------------------------------- > > >> >> > > >> >> Alex Eng > > >> >> Senior Software Engineer > > >> >> Globalisation Tools Engineering > > >> >> DID: +61 3514 8262 > > >> >> Mobile: +614 2335 3457 > > >> >> > > >> >> Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd > > >> >> Level 1, 193 North Quay > > >> >> Brisbane 4000 > > >> >> Office: +61 7 3514 8100 > > >> >> Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 > > >> >> Website: www.redhat.com > > >> >> > > >> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Ilya Alekseyev > > > <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org> > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> Daisy, > > >> >> > > >> >> i remember we fixed this for Liberty. But looks like somewhere > wrong > > >> >> config or error in script that creating master version. > > >> >> How ca we fix it? How i can help with this issue? > > >> >> > > >> >> Alex, is it possible to fix plural formula ofr version and keep > > >> >> statistics safe? > > >> >> > > >> >> We need to fix it as soon as possible, because 4 plural forms > making > > >> >> issues for russian translation (empty message, empty buttons, etc, > > >> >> as we can seee in Kilo release). > > >> >> > > >> >> Kind regards, > > >> >> Ilya Alekseyev. > > >> >> > > >> >> С уважением, > > >> >> Илья Алексеев > > >> >> > > >> >> Russian OpenStack Community > > >> >> > > >> >> 2016-03-10 19:37 GMT+03:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>: > > >> >> Russian translations in the horizon repo is downloaded from > Zanata, > > >> >> OpenStack translation platform. > > >> >> It seems Zanata has wrong plural configuration. > > >> >> > > >> >> > Daisy, Alex, > > >> >> Could you check Russian configuration in Zanata is correct? > > >> >> > > >> >> 2016-03-10 22:42 GMT+09:00 Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org>: > > >> >> > Dear collegues, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > i've checked current russian translation in horizon repository > and > > > find > > >> >> > out > > >> >> > that we have wrong plural formula in upstream. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/ > > >> >> openstack_dashboard/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/django.po#L35-L37 > > >> >> > > > >> >> > There is only 3 plural forms in Russian. > > >> >> > And correct formula should be > > >> >> > nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && > n%10<=4 > > > && > > >> >> > (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2); > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Looks like some script is wrong. > > >> >> > Does anybody know how to fix it? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Kind regards, > > >> >> > Ilya Alekseyev > > >> >> > > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list > > >> >> > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > >> >> > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian
by Akihiro Motoki 15 Mar '16

15 Mar '16

Hi Daisy, 2016-03-14 17:33 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > Hi, Akihiro > > I tried to upload a new Russian translation file with the correct plural > formula to django-openstack-auth. > And then I downloaded it. Yet the header is not changed at all. > I'm afraid uploading po files will not change the header. I made some tests with nplurals. My conclusion is that Zanata allows to update nplurals ONLY ONCE. I succeed to change nplural to 2 by putting japanese PO file, but once it was changed, even though I put Japanese PO file with nplural==1, nplural was not changed. I tested it using neutronclient Japanese. As an unfortunate result, Japanese resource in neutronclient now have the wrong nplurals (2). Could you reset neutronclient in Japanese? (There is no translation in neutronclient, so we can do this more easily :-) Thanks, Akihiro > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> wrote on 03/12/2016 09:13:09 PM: > >> From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com> >> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN >> Cc: Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com>, Ilya Alekseyev >> <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org>, "openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org" >> <openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> >> Date: 03/12/2016 09:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian >> >> Hi Daisy, Alex, >> >> I think the steps Daisy describes is the last resort. >> Regarding translation statistics, I have nothing to say as I don't >> know any about stats. >> >> There are a couple of things I would like to note. >> >> * It is better to first try to upload Russian PO files with nplurals=3 >> even though you failed it last time. >> * We need to check other Russian resources other than Horizon. >> I checked django-openstack-auth and nova and they have nplurals=4. >> There might be more. >> At now only Horizon and dashboard-related projects use plural cases, >> so we see this issue only in Horizon now. >> >> Akihiro >> >> >> >> 2016-03-11 14:20 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: >> > Thank you for the investigation, Akihiro and Alex. >> > >> > Below are the steps we previously used. >> > We can follow the same steps, just changing "stable" version to > "master" >> > version. >> > I think the statistic data will not be affected in step 1 to 5. >> > But, if we delete master-old, the contribution data in master-old will > be >> > removed. >> > So my suggestion is to do the same steps, and keep master-old version > (mark >> > it as readonly) >> > till 6 month or 12 month later when the contribution data is not that >> > important. >> > >> >> 1. Create Russian translation files with only the correct header and > the >> >> pluralities translation items. >> >> 2. Create a new version named as russian-fix >> >> 3. Upload the source files and the Russian translation files created > in #1 >> >> to the version russian-fix >> >> 4. Merge the stable version with version russian-fix >> >> 5. Rename stable version to stable-old, and rename russian-fix to > stable. >> > >> > Alex and Akihiro, please confirm my proposal. >> > Then I can take actions. >> > >> > Best regards >> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) >> > >> > >> > Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com> wrote on 2016/03/11 04:36:15: >> > >> >> From: Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com> >> >> To: Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org> >> >> Cc: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/ >> >> IBM@IBMCN, "openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org" <openstack- >> >> i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> >> >> Date: 2016/03/11 04:37 >> >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> If we fix the plural forms in pot file and push to Zanata, that >> >> would not affect the statistics. >> >> >> >> But I remember last time when we trying to fix this, there are some >> >> limitation of the pluralform wont update after the file is being >> >> uploaded once to Zanata. And we have to create a new version with >> >> fixed pot file and use "merge translation" feature to bring over all >> >> the translations. >> >> >> >> We can do the same thing again and the statistics won't be affected. >> >> (copied translation doesn't count in as contribution) >> >> >> >> I checked and Zanata has the correct form. >> >> >> >> nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && >> >> (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2) >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Alex Eng >> >> Senior Software Engineer >> >> Globalisation Tools Engineering >> >> DID: +61 3514 8262 >> >> Mobile: +614 2335 3457 >> >> >> >> Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd >> >> Level 1, 193 North Quay >> >> Brisbane 4000 >> >> Office: +61 7 3514 8100 >> >> Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 >> >> Website: www.redhat.com >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Ilya Alekseyev > <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> Daisy, >> >> >> >> i remember we fixed this for Liberty. But looks like somewhere wrong >> >> config or error in script that creating master version. >> >> How ca we fix it? How i can help with this issue? >> >> >> >> Alex, is it possible to fix plural formula ofr version and keep >> >> statistics safe? >> >> >> >> We need to fix it as soon as possible, because 4 plural forms making >> >> issues for russian translation (empty message, empty buttons, etc, >> >> as we can seee in Kilo release). >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Ilya Alekseyev. >> >> >> >> С уважением, >> >> Илья Алексеев >> >> >> >> Russian OpenStack Community >> >> >> >> 2016-03-10 19:37 GMT+03:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>: >> >> Russian translations in the horizon repo is downloaded from Zanata, >> >> OpenStack translation platform. >> >> It seems Zanata has wrong plural configuration. >> >> >> >> > Daisy, Alex, >> >> Could you check Russian configuration in Zanata is correct? >> >> >> >> 2016-03-10 22:42 GMT+09:00 Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org>: >> >> > Dear collegues, >> >> > >> >> > i've checked current russian translation in horizon repository and > find >> >> > out >> >> > that we have wrong plural formula in upstream. >> >> > >> >> > https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/ >> >> openstack_dashboard/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/django.po#L35-L37 >> >> > >> >> > There is only 3 plural forms in Russian. >> >> > And correct formula should be >> >> > nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 > && >> >> > (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2); >> >> > >> >> > Looks like some script is wrong. >> >> > Does anybody know how to fix it? >> >> > >> >> > Kind regards, >> >> > Ilya Alekseyev >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list >> >> > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org >> >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n >> >> > >> > >

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GILT in Curriculum
by Rajesh Ranjan 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

Hi We, FUEL Community [1], are in discussion with SICSR [2] and some other institutes to introduce a formal curriculum on GILT (Globalization, Internationalization, Localization, Translation) technology which can be taught either as short term or long term course. This was outcome of discussions at past FUEL GILT Conference and FUEL meetings in Gnunify. Please refer the mail by Karunakar: https://lists.fedorahosted.org/archives/list/fuel-discuss@lists.fedorahoste… Please check the draft curriculum link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M4KgUy4VOU8aIlo8XT-C7HW2no_B0B5ZhkM69TZ… You are invited to contribution in the formation of the curriculum and take any chapter/sub chapter. Your suggestions are also welcome! Like all the content of FUEL Project, the content of the curriculum will be under open license. This is a unique activity and will help GILT technology. Thanks [1]. http://fuelproject.org/ [2]. http://sicsr.ac.in/ -- *Rajesh Ranjan* Open Source Community Manager Digital India, Govt. of India https://twitter.com/kajha

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian
by Akihiro Motoki 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

Hi Daisy, Alex, I think the steps Daisy describes is the last resort. Regarding translation statistics, I have nothing to say as I don't know any about stats. There are a couple of things I would like to note. * It is better to first try to upload Russian PO files with nplurals=3 even though you failed it last time. * We need to check other Russian resources other than Horizon. I checked django-openstack-auth and nova and they have nplurals=4. There might be more. At now only Horizon and dashboard-related projects use plural cases, so we see this issue only in Horizon now. Akihiro 2016-03-11 14:20 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com>: > Thank you for the investigation, Akihiro and Alex. > > Below are the steps we previously used. > We can follow the same steps, just changing "stable" version to "master" > version. > I think the statistic data will not be affected in step 1 to 5. > But, if we delete master-old, the contribution data in master-old will be > removed. > So my suggestion is to do the same steps, and keep master-old version (mark > it as readonly) > till 6 month or 12 month later when the contribution data is not that > important. > >> 1. Create Russian translation files with only the correct header and the >> pluralities translation items. >> 2. Create a new version named as russian-fix >> 3. Upload the source files and the Russian translation files created in #1 >> to the version russian-fix >> 4. Merge the stable version with version russian-fix >> 5. Rename stable version to stable-old, and rename russian-fix to stable. > > Alex and Akihiro, please confirm my proposal. > Then I can take actions. > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com> wrote on 2016/03/11 04:36:15: > >> From: Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com> >> To: Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org> >> Cc: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/ >> IBM@IBMCN, "openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org" <openstack- >> i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> >> Date: 2016/03/11 04:37 >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian > > >> >> Hi, >> >> If we fix the plural forms in pot file and push to Zanata, that >> would not affect the statistics. >> >> But I remember last time when we trying to fix this, there are some >> limitation of the pluralform wont update after the file is being >> uploaded once to Zanata. And we have to create a new version with >> fixed pot file and use "merge translation" feature to bring over all >> the translations. >> >> We can do the same thing again and the statistics won't be affected. >> (copied translation doesn't count in as contribution) >> >> I checked and Zanata has the correct form. >> >> nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && >> (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2) >> >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> Alex Eng >> Senior Software Engineer >> Globalisation Tools Engineering >> DID: +61 3514 8262 >> Mobile: +614 2335 3457 >> >> Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd >> Level 1, 193 North Quay >> Brisbane 4000 >> Office: +61 7 3514 8100 >> Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 >> Website: www.redhat.com >> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org> >> wrote: >> Daisy, >> >> i remember we fixed this for Liberty. But looks like somewhere wrong >> config or error in script that creating master version. >> How ca we fix it? How i can help with this issue? >> >> Alex, is it possible to fix plural formula ofr version and keep >> statistics safe? >> >> We need to fix it as soon as possible, because 4 plural forms making >> issues for russian translation (empty message, empty buttons, etc, >> as we can seee in Kilo release). >> >> Kind regards, >> Ilya Alekseyev. >> >> С уважением, >> Илья Алексеев >> >> Russian OpenStack Community >> >> 2016-03-10 19:37 GMT+03:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>: >> Russian translations in the horizon repo is downloaded from Zanata, >> OpenStack translation platform. >> It seems Zanata has wrong plural configuration. >> >> > Daisy, Alex, >> Could you check Russian configuration in Zanata is correct? >> >> 2016-03-10 22:42 GMT+09:00 Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org>: >> > Dear collegues, >> > >> > i've checked current russian translation in horizon repository and find >> > out >> > that we have wrong plural formula in upstream. >> > >> > https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/ >> openstack_dashboard/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/django.po#L35-L37 >> > >> > There is only 3 plural forms in Russian. >> > And correct formula should be >> > nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && >> > (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2); >> > >> > Looks like some script is wrong. >> > Does anybody know how to fix it? >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > Ilya Alekseyev >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list >> > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org >> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n >> >

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Wrong plural formula for russian
by Ilya Alekseyev 14 Mar '16

14 Mar '16

Dear collegues, i've checked current russian translation in horizon repository and find out that we have wrong plural formula in upstream. https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/locale… There is only 3 plural forms in Russian. And correct formula should be nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2); Looks like some script is wrong. Does anybody know how to fix it? Kind regards, Ilya Alekseyev

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[I18n] PTL Candidacy
by Kato, Tomoyuki 13 Mar '16

13 Mar '16

Hello everyone, I'd like to announce my candidacy for I18n PTL. I'm one of the most active translators since July 2013 when I18n team is a just working group, not an official project. Also, I'm one of Japanese coordinators. Japanese translation team is the most active team in I18n team. We sometimes share a few tips from our experience to I18n team. I18n team have spent a very great time for a long time. Especially, after we became an official project, we have became more collaborative in cross-language activity, such as building dashboard translation check site. I appreciate the current I18n PTL Daisy. She made our team become an official project. In the Newton cycle, I'd like to * support dashboard and its plug-ins tranlation into more languages, * facilitate documentation tranlation into more languages, * design and improve translation process, glossary management, translation bug triage process, and so on. Also, I'd like to feedback our experience to the translation system Zanata and cooperate with Zanata and Infra team to improve our translation efficiency. I think user facing contents translation is essential to improve user experience to the people having various language background. I believe I18n activity is necessary for OpenStack to become more and more universal. Best regards, KATO Tomoyuki (katomo)

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[Docs] PTL Candidacy
by Lana Brindley 13 Mar '16

13 Mar '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi everyone, I am seeking re-election as Documentation PTL for Newton. I have now been the docs PTL for two releases (Liberty and Mitaka), and would love another term in the middle of the alphabet! We've achieved a lot this time around, including an almost complete conversion to RST, quite a few structural overhauls of popular books, and some fundamental toolchain improvements. There is still lots to be done, though, and I would love your support to achieve this in Newton. During Liberty we got the bulk of our books migrated away from Docbook XML and into RST. In Mitaka, we completed that work (with only the Ops Guide remaining to be converted in Newton). For the last couple of releases, we've also had a focus on improving the information architecture of our books, and have now successfully completed overhauls of our most popular books, with the Architecture Guide also well underway. All of these tasks will be carried over to Newton, with many of them finally coming to completion. In Newton, I would also like to address some of the larger issues around the organisation of our documentation suite, making it easier for developers to contribute quality code to our docs, and better welcoming and introducing new big tent projects to the documentation team. At the Mitaka summit in Tokyo, we decided to make a concerted effort to pay down a lot of our tech debt, and one of the main ways we chose to do that was to change the way we handled the DocImpact flag in our bugs. We merged those changes to DocImpact about a month ago now, and it is already having a significant impact on the amount of untriaged bugs outstanding. We're now much more able to keep on top of our bug queue, which is giving us a much greater ability to pay down tech debt. In this vein, we also have put a lot of effort into ensuring new contributors have a better onboarding experience to docs, with the creation of our new Contributor Guide which replaces a lot of old wiki-based content, a great 'get started with docs' campaign at the last Summit (which resulted in a hard copy article in the Summit edition of SuperUser, and Anne and I on SuperUser TV), and a general willingness to respond to questions on the mailing lists and help out new users wherever we find them. In the Liberty release cycle, we closed just over 600 bugs, and we're very close to matching that number for Mitaka, with 505 bugs closed as I write this. Again, we've managed to keep on top of the aging bugs as well, with all bugs older than a year now closed. In the Mitaka release, we managed to close 16 blueprints, which is a massive increase over Liberty's 7. I'm very excited about making the trek to Austin soon for the Newton summit, to catch up with old friends, and hopefully meet some of our newest contributors. Please be sure to stop for a chat if you see me around :) I'd love to have your support for the PTL role for Newton, and I'm looking forward to continuing to grow the documentation team. Thanks, Lana (@loquacities) - -- Lana Brindley Technical Writer Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia http://lanabrindley.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJW5g++AAoJELppzVb4+KUy9LAH/RC5y/gM22qywGZaE2y4hWEc b+xdCxFUuh41l3WJhQ2iRJrnZUjm84doG2eCIcCpJW/OC5udo+2GiQYGmLUH278A uz8Rfglsu/SmDhWZbaIWtiKXo3WedmWzXUbBCV7/+aftphKLMdckD1KAharZZOWq Jqzg56SjWRqzbO++XiciCVwQ+zgoGuzJzYEQ1SsYsAdp/+wdtO2qPORZO1UuoOfz wFFS/OG8O4PsJa3e9KW/kHzDY3Emkz7bhqDcbE6w3HyszC6bEq8lDgmcXtg2SoNn FzjEpoiiAyalncUfo3p+v+7CV/3M/N4nCB2K+VhYO0hIAxPgUMxhrP3jzzq/gSI= =sboQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian
by Alex Eng 13 Mar '16

13 Mar '16

+1 Daisy --------------------------------------------- Alex Eng Senior Software Engineer Globalisation Tools Engineering DID: +61 3514 8262 <callto:+61+3514+8262> Mobile: +614 2335 3457 <callto:+614+2335+3457> Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd Level 1, 193 North Quay Brisbane 4000 Office: +61 7 3514 8100 <callto:+61+7+3514+8100> Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 <callto:+61+7+3514+8199> Website: www.redhat.com On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc(a)cn.ibm.com> wrote: > Thank you for the investigation, Akihiro and Alex. > > Below are the steps we previously used. > We can follow the same steps, just changing "stable" version to "master" > version. > I think the statistic data will not be affected in step 1 to 5. > But, if we delete master-old, the contribution data in master-old will be > removed. > So my suggestion is to do the same steps, and keep master-old version > (mark it as readonly) > till 6 month or 12 month later when the contribution data is not that > important. > > > 1. Create Russian translation files with only the correct header and the > > pluralities translation items. > > 2. Create a new version named as russian-fix > > 3. Upload the source files and the Russian translation files created in > #1 > > to the version russian-fix > > 4. Merge the stable version with version russian-fix > > 5. Rename stable version to stable-old, and rename russian-fix to stable. > > Alex and Akihiro, please confirm my proposal. > Then I can take actions. > > Best regards > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy) > > > Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com> wrote on 2016/03/11 04:36:15: > > > From: Alex Eng <aeng(a)redhat.com> > > To: Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org> > > Cc: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/ > > IBM@IBMCN, "openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org" <openstack- > > i18n(a)lists.openstack.org> > > Date: 2016/03/11 04:37 > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Wrong plural formula for russian > > > > Hi, > > > > If we fix the plural forms in pot file and push to Zanata, that > > would not affect the statistics. > > > > But I remember last time when we trying to fix this, there are some > > limitation of the pluralform wont update after the file is being > > uploaded once to Zanata. And we have to create a new version with > > fixed pot file and use "merge translation" feature to bring over all > > the translations. > > > > We can do the same thing again and the statistics won't be affected. > > (copied translation doesn't count in as contribution) > > > > I checked and Zanata has the correct form. > > > > nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && > > (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2) > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > Alex Eng > > Senior Software Engineer > > Globalisation Tools Engineering > > DID: +61 3514 8262 > > Mobile: +614 2335 3457 > > > > Red Hat, Asia-Pacific Pty Ltd > > Level 1, 193 North Quay > > Brisbane 4000 > > Office: +61 7 3514 8100 > > Fax: +61 7 3514 8199 > > Website: www.redhat.com > > > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org> > wrote: > > Daisy, > > > > i remember we fixed this for Liberty. But looks like somewhere wrong > > config or error in script that creating master version. > > How ca we fix it? How i can help with this issue? > > > > Alex, is it possible to fix plural formula ofr version and keep > > statistics safe? > > > > We need to fix it as soon as possible, because 4 plural forms making > > issues for russian translation (empty message, empty buttons, etc, > > as we can seee in Kilo release). > > > > Kind regards, > > Ilya Alekseyev. > > > > С уважением, > > Илья Алексеев > > > > Russian OpenStack Community > > > > 2016-03-10 19:37 GMT+03:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki(a)gmail.com>: > > Russian translations in the horizon repo is downloaded from Zanata, > > OpenStack translation platform. > > It seems Zanata has wrong plural configuration. > > > > > Daisy, Alex, > > Could you check Russian configuration in Zanata is correct? > > > > 2016-03-10 22:42 GMT+09:00 Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev(a)acm.org>: > > > Dear collegues, > > > > > > i've checked current russian translation in horizon repository and > find out > > > that we have wrong plural formula in upstream. > > > > > > https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/ > > openstack_dashboard/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/django.po#L35-L37 > > > > > > There is only 3 plural forms in Russian. > > > And correct formula should be > > > nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 && > > > (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2); > > > > > > Looks like some script is wrong. > > > Does anybody know how to fix it? > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > Ilya Alekseyev > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Openstack-i18n mailing list > > > Openstack-i18n(a)lists.openstack.org > > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n > > > >

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Wow!
by Andreas Jaeger 13 Mar '16

13 Mar '16

Habe mir gerade mal Statistiken angesehen. Deutsche Übersetung bei Dashboard ist auf Platz 2 und bei Server auf dem 2. Platz! Klasse! Ein Kommentar noch zu den Prozenten: Wir importieren neu von zanata in die Projekte nur solche Dateien, die mindestens 75 % der Messages übersetzt haben. Angezeigt wird in Zanata per Default als Prozentsatz aber die Wörter, aber das kann man temporär umschalten. Die Logdatein würde ich übrigens nicht übersetzen, die sehen wirklich nur Admins und können zu Verwirrung führen. Die wurden ausgelagert, damit wir ihnen niedrigere Priorität geben können. Gruß Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a){suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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