September 2020 - openstack-discuss

[nova][dev] Revisiting qemu emulation where guest arch != host arch
by Apsey, Christopher 05 Jan '22

05 Jan '22

All, A few years ago I asked a question[1] about why nova, when given a hw_architecture property from glance for an image, would not end up using the correct qemu-system-xx binary when starting the guest process on a compute node if that compute nodes architecture did not match the proposed guest architecture. As an example, if we had all x86 hosts, but wanted to run an emulated ppc guest, we should be able to do that given that at least one compute node had qemu-system-ppc already installed and libvirt was successfully reporting that as a supported architecture to nova. It seemed like a heavy lift at the time, so it was put on the back burner. I am now in a position to fund a contract developer to make this happen, so the question is: would this be a useful blueprint that would potentially be accepted? Most of the time when people want to run an emulated guest they would just nest it inside of an already running guest of the native architecture, but that severely limits observability and the task of managing any more than a handful of instances in this manner quickly becomes a tangled nightmare of networking, etc. I see real benefit in allowing this scenario to run natively so all of the tooling that exists for fleet management 'just works'. This would also be a significant differentiator for OpenStack as a whole. Thoughts? [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2018-August/015653… Chris Apsey Director | Georgia Cyber Range GEORGIA CYBER CENTER 100 Grace Hopper Lane | Augusta, Georgia | 30901 https://www.gacybercenter.org

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Help with eventlet 0.26.1 and dnspython >= 2
by Thomas Goirand 04 Oct '21

04 Oct '21

Hi, As you may know, eventlet is incompatible with dnspython >= 2.0.0.0rc1. See [1] for the details. However, Debian unstable has 2.0.0. Would there be some good soul willing to help me fix this situation? I would need a patch to fix this, but I'm really not sure how to start. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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[simplification] Making ask.openstack.org read-only
by Thierry Carrez 27 May '21

27 May '21

Hi everyone, This has been discussed several times on this mailing list in the past, but we never got to actually pull the plug. Ask.openstack.org was launched in 2013. The reason for hosting our own setup was to be able to support multiple languages, while StackOverflow rejected our proposal to have our own openstack-branded StackExchange site. The Chinese ask.o.o side never really took off. The English side also never really worked perfectly (like email alerts are hopelessly broken), but we figured it would get better with time if a big community formed around it. Fast-forward to 2020 and the instance is lacking volunteers to help run it, while the code (and our customization of it) has become more complicated to maintain. It regularly fails one way or another, and questions there often go unanswered, making us look bad. Of the top 30 users, most have abandoned the platform since 2017, leaving only Bernd Bausch actively engaging and helping moderate questions lately. We have called for volunteers several times, but the offers for help never really materialized. At the same time, people are asking OpenStack questions on StackOverflow, and sometimes getting answers there[1]. The fragmentation of the "questions" space is not helping users getting good answers. I think it's time to pull the plug, make ask.openstack.org read-only (so that links to old answers are not lost) and redirect users to the mailing-list and the "OpenStack" tag on StackOverflow. I picked StackOverflow since it seems to have the most openstack questions (2,574 on SO, 76 on SuperUser and 430 on ServerFault). We discussed that option several times, but I now proposed a change to actually make it happen: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/746497/ It's always a difficult decision to make to kill a resource, but I feel like in this case, consolidation and simplification would help. Thoughts, comments? [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/openstack -- Thierry

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[stein][neutron] gratuitous arp
by Ignazio Cassano 14 May '21

14 May '21

Hello, I have a problem on stein neutron. When a vm migrate from one node to another I cannot ping it for several minutes. If in the vm I put a script that ping the gateway continously, the live migration works fine and I can ping it. Why this happens ? I read something about gratuitous arp. Please, help me ? Any workaround , please ? Best Regards Ignazio

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[ironic] Announcing deprecation of the iSCSI deploy interface
by Dmitry Tantsur 04 May '21

04 May '21

Hi all, Following up to the previous mailing list [1] and virtual meetup [2] discussions, I would like to announce the plans to deprecate the 'iscsi' deploy interface. This is the updated plan discussed on the virtual meetup: 1) In the Victoria cycle (i.e. right now): - Fill in the detected feature gaps [3]. - Switch off the iscsi deploy interface by default. - Change [agent]image_dowload_source to HTTP by default. - Give the direct deploy a higher priority, so that it's used by default unless disabled. - Mark it as deprecated in the code (causing warnings when enabled). - Release a major version of ironic to highlight the defaults changes. 2) In the W cycle: - Keep the iscsi deploy deprecated. - Listen to operators' feedback. 3) In the X cycle - Remove the iscsi deploy completely from ironic and IPA. - Remove support code from ironic-lib with a major version bump. Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns. Dmitry [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-August/016681.h… [2] https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Ironic-Victoria-midcycle [3] https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2008075 -- Red Hat GmbH, https://de.redhat.com/ , Registered seat: Grasbrunn, Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243, Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Brian Klemm, Laurie Krebs, Michael O'Neill

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Re: [openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?
by Alex Schultz 03 Mar '21

03 Mar '21

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:30 PM Alex Schultz <aschultz(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Matt Riedemann <mriedemos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > The release page says Ocata is planned to go into extended maintenance mode > > on Aug 27 [1]. There really isn't much to this except it means we don't do > > releases for Ocata anymore [2]. There is a caveat that project teams that do > > not wish to maintain stable/ocata after this point can immediately end of > > life the branch for their project [3]. We can still run CI using tags, e.g. > > if keystone goes ocata-eol, devstack on stable/ocata can still continue to > > install from stable/ocata for nova and the ocata-eol tag for keystone. > > Having said that, if there is no undue burden on the project team keeping > > the lights on for stable/ocata, I would recommend not tagging the > > stable/ocata branch end of life at this point. > > > > So, questions that need answering are: > > > > 1. Should we cut a final release for projects with stable/ocata branches > > before going into extended maintenance mode? I tend to think "yes" to flush > > the queue of backports. In fact, [3] doesn't mention it, but the resolution > > said we'd tag the branch [4] to indicate it has entered the EM phase. > > > > 2. Are there any projects that would want to skip EM and go directly to EOL > > (yes this feels like a Monopoly question)? > > > > I believe TripleO would like to EOL instead of EM for Ocata as > indicated by the thead > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134671.ht… > Bringing this backup to see what we need to do to get the stable/ocata branches ended for the TripleO projects. I'm bringing this up because we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/647009/ which is for the upcoming rename but CI is broken and we have no interest in continue to keep the stable/ocata branches alive (or fix ci for them). Thanks, -Alex > Thanks, > -Alex > > > [1] https://releases.openstack.org/ > > [2] > > https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#maintena… > > [3] > > https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#extended… > > [4] > > https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.… > > > > -- > > > > Thanks, > > > > Matt > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Unsubscribe: OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

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[largescale-sig] OpenStack DB Archiver
by Arnaud Morin 10 Feb '21

10 Feb '21

Hello large-scalers! TLDR: we opensource a tool to help reducing size of databases. See https://github.com/ovh/osarchiver/ Few months ago, we released a tool, name osarchiver, which we are using on our production environment (at OVH) to help reduce the size of our tables in mariadb (or mysql) In fact, some tables are well know to grow very quickly. We use it, for example, to clean the OpenStack mistral database from old tasks, actions and executions which are older than a year. Another use case could be to archive some data in another table (e.g. with _archived as suffix) if they are 6 months old, and delete this data after 1 year. The source code of this tool is available here: https://github.com/ovh/osarchiver/ We were wondering if some other users would be interested in using the tool, and maybe move it under the opendev governance? Feel free to contact us and/or answer this thread. Cheers, -- Arnaud, Pierre-Samuel and OVH team

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[qa][tempest] Update language in tempest code base
by Arx Cruz 05 Jan '21

05 Jan '21

Hello, I would like to start a discussion regarding the topic. At this moment in time we have an opportunity to be a more open and inclusive project by eliminating outdated naming conventions from tempest codebase, such as blacklist, whitelist. We should take the opportunity and do our best to replace outdated terms with their more inclusive alternatives. As you can see in [1] the TripleO project is already working on this initiative, and I would like to work on this as well on the tempest side. Any thoughts? Shall I start with a sepc, adding deprecation warnings? [1] https://review.opendev.org/#/c/740013/1/specs/victoria/renaming_rules.rst Kind regards, -- Arx Cruz Software Engineer Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com> arxcruz(a)redhat.com @RedHat <https://twitter.com/redhat> Red Hat <https://www.linkedin.com/company/red-hat> Red Hat <https://www.facebook.com/RedHatInc> <https://www.redhat.com>

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[placement][nova][cinder][neutron][blazar] Placement governance switch(back)
by Stephen Finucane 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

Placement has been a separate project with its own governance since Stein [1]. Since then, the main drivers behind the separation have moved onto pastures new and with Tetsuro sadly declaring his non- candidacy for the PTL position for Wallaby [2], we're left in the unenviable position of potentially not having a PTL for the Wallaby cycle. As such, it's probably time to discuss the future of Placement governance. Assuming no one steps forward for the Placement PTL role, it would appear to me that we have two options. Either we look at transitioning Placement to a PTL-less project, or we move it back under nova governance. To be honest, given how important placement is to nova and other projects now, I'm uncomfortable with the idea of not having a point person who is ultimately responsible for things like cutting a release (yes, delegation is encouraged but someone needs to herd the cats). At the same time, I do realize that placement is used by more that nova now so nova cores and what's left of the separate placement core team shouldn't be the only ones making this decision. So, assuming the worst happens and placement is left without a PTL for Victoria, what do we want to do? Stephen PS: Apologies if I missed other projects with an interest in placement. I did try to catch them all /o\ [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/002575… [2] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/01749…

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Fwd: [MURANO] DevStack Murano "yaql_function" Error
by İzzettin Erdem 02 Nov '20

02 Nov '20

Thanks Andy. Regards. Forwarded Conversation Subject: [MURANO] DevStack Murano "yaql_function" Error ------------------------ Gönderen: Andy Botting <andy(a)andybotting.com> Date: 30 Nis 2020 Per, 14:13 To: İzzettin Erdem <root.mch(a)gmail.com> Cc: Rong Zhu <aaronzhu1121(a)gmail.com>, < openstack-discuss(a)lists.openstack.org> Hi İzzettin, Thanks for your interest. Complete log link is at below. It is happening > when i try to deploy or update an environment. > > http://paste.openstack.org/show/792444/ > I've encountered the error AttributeError: 'method' object has no attribute '__yaql_function__' in our environment recently. I believe it started after we upgraded to the Stein release. I haven't tracked it down yet, but calls to the YAQL function: std:Project.getEnvironmentOwner() in a Murano app seem to generate it. It's good to know that at least someone else has reproduced this. cheers, Andy ---------- Gönderen: İzzettin Erdem <root.mch(a)gmail.com> Date: 2 May 2020 Cmt, 16:08 To: Andy Botting <andy(a)andybotting.com> Hi Andy, I solved this problem, it is happening when you try to create or update an environment on existing network. If you change the network with "create new" parameter, it stuck on "creating -or updating- environment" state and after that throws connection error. So i searched Murano network errors and i found this: https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E73172_01/E73173/html/issue-21976631.html. I applied these steps and i created successfully an environment just only with "create new" network parameter. After all these, i realized my devstack environment has no internet connection and because of this murano-agent could not install. So i tried to install Murano on my OSA stable/train test environment and i came with success until last step. Murano-agent installed but this time agent could not connect to rabbitmq instance. I discussed this with OSA IRC channel and i think i have to struggle with this for a long time. Apologize for this long mail but i wanted to inform you. Thanks. Regards. ---------- Gönderen: Andy Botting <andy(a)andybotting.com> Date: 3 May 2020 Paz, 14:24 To: İzzettin Erdem <root.mch(a)gmail.com> Hi İzzettin, Glad you got it sorted. I think you've probably just worked around the issue. Using your new method, you're probably just avoiding the std:Project.getEnvironmentOwner YAQL call now. I've also worked around it in our environment, but I'd like to solve it properly. When I get some time to look into it properly, I'll let you know. cheers, Andy

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