November 2023 - openstack-discuss

[ptl][tc] OpenStack packages PyPi additional external maintainers audit & cleanup
by Ghanshyam Mann 17 May '24

17 May '24

Hi PTLs, As you might know or have seen for your project package on PyPi, OpenStack deliverables on PyPi have additional maintainers, For example, https://pypi.org/project/murano/, https://pypi.org/project/glance/ We should keep only 'openstackci' as a maintainer in PyPi so that releases of OpenStack deliverables can be managed in a single place. Otherwise, we might face the two sets of maintainers' places and packages might get released in PyPi by additional maintainers without the OpenStack project team knowing about it. One such case is in Horizon repo 'xstatic-font-awesome' where a new maintainer is added by an existing additional maintainer and this package was released without the Horizon team knowing about the changes and release. - https://github.com/openstack/xstatic-font-awesome/pull/2 To avoid the 'xstatic-font-awesome' case for other packages, TC discussed it in their weekly meetings[1] and agreed to audit all the OpenStack packages and then clean up the additional maintainers in PyPi (keep only 'openstackci' as maintainers). To help in this task, TC requests project PTL to perform the audit for their project's repo and add comments in the below etherpad. - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-pypi-maintainers-cleanup Thanks to knikolla to automate the listing of the OpenStack packages with additional maintainers in PyPi which you can find the result in output.txt at the bottom of this link. I have added the project list of who needs to check their repo in etherpad. - https://gist.github.com/knikolla/7303a65a5ddaa2be553fc6e54619a7a1 Please complete the audit for your project before March 15 so that TC can discuss the next step in vPTG. [1] https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2023/tc.2023-01-11-16.00.log.html#… -gmann

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[all][packaging][release][qa] pep-517 and pip 23
by smooney＠redhat.com 06 May '24

06 May '24

hi folks, TL;DR ----- this is a long email so the tl;dr is we should add pyproject.toml ``` [build-system] requires = ["pbr>=5.7.0", "setuptools>=36.6.0", "wheel"] build-backend = "pbr.build" ``` to all openstack projects to supprot pip 23.1+ Long version ------------ As some of you may know the ptg happend last week an done of hte topic raised there was a know limitation in devstack where GLOBAL_VENV=True does not work on centos/fedora derived distros. while i generally dont use centos/fedora derived distros for my daily work i have been using devstack for over 10 years at this point so when im told it broken i ocationlly will go fix it. In this case the issue is not with devstack (it often isnt) and is actully in our collective reliance on a deprecated functionality and how we package openstack today. Back story, for better or worse when openstack was created the landscape of python packaging was significantly different then it is today. To help corodinate our dependcies the openstack comunity went all in on requirements.txt and developed upper-constraits to manage our requirements and developed PBR (python build Reasonableness). both of those approches have served us well and likely will continue to do so for some time. Since then pyproject.toml has started to gain popularity and pep-517 (A build-system independent format for source trees) has been adotpted but so far openstack as a comunity has not embraced those changes. (although pbr already supprot pep-517 :) ). Until now this has not been a problem however with recent release of pip things are now breaking. Problem Context: - openstack does not provide pyporject.toml files - openstack project configure setuptools to use pbr via setup.py - setuptools support generating scripts form entry points(console_scripts) which we use for project binaries( nova- compute, neutron-server, ...) - openstack api services use a pbr extension know as wsgi_scripts which adds a similar functionality for generating wsgi application mains file - devstack due to coming changes in distro to block "sudo pip install" now installs openstack in a single by default on debian distros. on centos/fedora distros it currently almost functional (but not). - devstack installs in editable mode because that is how most developers use devstack for developemnt What changed: - pip 20.2 deprecated support for falling back to calling setup.py when pyproject.toml is not present - https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/news/#v20-2 - https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/8368 - at this point when pyproject.yaml is not called pip calls setup.py install [-e] <path to repo or package name> - setup.py invokes pbr to generate wsgi_scripts and other files - in pip 23.1 the fallback was removed https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/news/#v23-1 - pip now builds a temp local wheel instead of calling setup.py install when pyproject.toml is not found - in editable mode (-e) the default way the wheel is built does not invoke pbr properly to generate the wsgi files - as a result the wsgi files are not installed to the venv bin dir and this causes devstack to fail to start keystone (or any other wsgi api) The fix, there are a few ways to approch this: - clamp pip (https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/898845) this is a terible idea and it breaks debian - clamping pip below 23.1 works on centos for now however OVS on debian already requires pep 517 for installing - as such when that version of ovs (or other projects start enforcing that) hits centos it will break - add a minimal pyproject.toml to all openstack project - example for keystone https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystone/+/899519 - this example jsut adds the minium pyproject.toml to enable pbr to be used as the build system - it does not remove supprot for setup.py but it will not be used by default going forward whit new version of pip - all config is still in setup.cfg - add pyproject.toml support but remove setup.py support https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/bindep/+/816741 - this goes one step futrue and actuly nulls out setup.py - we could take this approach if we want to but its not required. The reason for this email is to get agreement on how to support pip 23.1+ My proposal would be to add pyproject.toml with the minimal config required to enable pip 23.2 but not drop the setup.py support in this cycle. i would suggest that we can deprecate installing via setup.py in caracal if that is desirable but not make that change until the next slurp to give time to projects and packages to catch up. if there are no objections to that i would like to ask what is the preferd way to create and submit the patches for the minimal pyproject.toml ``` [build-system] requires = ["pbr>=5.7.0", "setuptools>=36.6.0", "wheel"] build-backend = "pbr.build" ``` i can propose patches to the main project deployed by devstack by default. i.e. nova/neutron ectra but it might be better if someone form the core teams of each project could take on that task and chasing the reviews. if someone has a script to generate a patch for a set of repos that just add the above pyporject.toml then we can use that to keep a consistent topic/commit message across all patches. my proposal for testing this is two fold. in ci we can test the patches are functional by using a DNM patch to devstack to force enable the gloal venv on centos and depend on the set of patches, i will modify https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/898845 to do that locally we can test that the patch is functional by doing the following substituting keystone for the relevant project. ``` git clone https://opendev.org/openstack/keystone cd keystone python3 -m venv .venv . .venv/bin/activate python3 -m pip install -U pip python3 -m pip install -e . ls .venv/bin/keystone* ``` the ls will not contain the wsgi script with the addition of the pyproject.toml it should. on debian sid i can reproduce the same issue the problem we are seeing on centos 9 now will start impacting other distos eventually so its good to fix this now. if i start proposing this to glance/nova/neutron/cinder/swift/horizon/placement (to get a default devstack working) can i get cores to review? can cores form each project nominate peopel to review or volenteer to do this work. i have created https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/pep-517-and-pip-23 to track this work i have some other work that i think we can do in parallel like addign pyporject.toml support to the pti requirements if we go this way but that i think we can discuss on a governacne patch to updated it. anyway this is a lot to digest so feedback is welcome. if someone else would like to drive this that is also welcome (i.e. tc/release team) regards sean.

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Accessing virsh in openstack wallaby | tripleo
by Swogat Pradhan 24 Mar '24

24 Mar '24

Hi, Can someone please tell me how can i access the virsh utility on the compute node on openstack wallaby? Previously we used nova_libvirt but in wallaby there are multiple containers and i am unable to use virsh utility to edit my domain.xml file. List of containers: [root@dcn01-hci-2 ~]# podman ps | grep nova 10d981158842 172.25.201.68:8787/tripleomaster/openstack-nova-libvirt:current-tripleo kolla_start 2 months ago Up 2 months ago nova_virtlogd_wrapper e91667516afc 172.25.201.68:8787/tripleomaster/openstack-nova-libvirt:current-tripleo kolla_start 2 months ago Up 2 months ago nova_virtsecretd a4b07fe0e833 172.25.201.68:8787/tripleomaster/openstack-nova-libvirt:current-tripleo kolla_start 2 months ago Up 2 months ago nova_virtnodedevd d7e1db393e9c 172.25.201.68:8787/tripleomaster/openstack-nova-libvirt:current-tripleo kolla_start 2 months ago Up 2 months ago nova_virtstoraged 5308a171793e 172.25.201.68:8787/tripleomaster/openstack-nova-libvirt:current-tripleo kolla_start 2 months ago Up 2 months ago nova_virtqemud f490a6249ba1 172.25.201.68:8787/tripleomaster/openstack-nova-libvirt:current-tripleo kolla_start 2 months ago Up 6 weeks ago nova_virtproxyd ab0441e56957 172.25.201.68:8787/tripleomaster/openstack-nova-compute:current-tripleo kolla_start 2 months ago Up 2 months ago (healthy) nova_migration_target f35fbba5b690 172.25.201.68:8787/tripleomaster/openstack-nova-compute:current-tripleo kolla_start 2 months ago Up 6 weeks ago (unhealthy) nova_compute 82bc01993106 172.25.201.68:8787/tripleomaster/openstack-nova-libvirt:current-tripleo /usr/sbin/virtlog... 2 months ago Up 2 months ago Can someone please suggest how I can i edit an instance xml file in this setup? With regards, Swogat Pradhan

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[Freezer] Is Freezer dead?
by pi3.14＠tuta.io 19 Mar '24

19 Mar '24

Hi folks, is Freezer still supported? I don't see any real development going on with it. Is it recommended to use in a production Cloud environment? Are there other free and open source alternatives to Freezer? Thanks Roby

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[cinder][glance][nova][telemetry][monasca][oslo][vmware] Can we deprecate(and remove) VMWare support ?
by Takashi Kajinami 07 Mar '24

07 Mar '24

Hi all, As you might know, some of the OpenStack projects currently support usage of VMWare component. However recently the VMware virt driver in nova was marked experimental in 2023.2 release [1] and it has been discussed that the driver will be removed in 2023.2 release[2], after deprecation is backported to 2023.1. (Please someone from nova team correct me if I'm wrong) So my current question is; Does it make sense to deprecate all of the features to support VMWare component ? My understanding is that these features were added to be used along with VMWare virt driver in nova, but once the virt driver is removed this use case is voided. I'll list up the features within the discussion scope below. nova: VMWare virt driver (this is already experimental by [1]) cinder: VMware Storage Driver (vmdk) glance: VMWare Datastore (I proposed deprecating this in [3][4]) ceilometer: VMWare virt driver (this was deprecated by [5]) os-brick: VmdkConnector monasca-agent: vcenter collector (*1) oslo.vmware: the whole project NOTE: These features are found based on dependency on oslo.vmware but there can be a few not listed here. Outside of OpenStack's governance, there are two projects dependent on oslo.vmware, networking-vsphere and vmware-nsx but both of these look inactive. Because of SLURP, we have to complete deprecation during in 2024.1 release so that we can drop the feature right after 2024.1. If we fail then we have to maintain these features until 2025.1 (the features already deprecated can be removed earlier, though). So I'd like to get feedback and decision before deadline for 2024.1 Thank you, Takashi (*1) Monasca is now inactive so I doubt anyone would work on this topic before it is retired. [1] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/863911 [2] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/897017 [3] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance_store/+/893696 [4] https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack… [5] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ceilometer/+/894540

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[Watcher] How use Watcher to scheduler Openstack resource without cpu_usage
by Nguyễn Hữu Khôi 06 Mar '24

06 Mar '24

Hello guys. I want to use watcher to scheduler openstack resources but some openstack versions are missing cpu_usage metric. How do we use Watcher without it? Thank you. Nguyen Huu Khoi

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[openstack][skyline] Some works with skyline
by Nguyễn Hữu Khôi 26 Feb '24

26 Feb '24

Hello guys. I am working on Skyline. I can integrate my monitor tab on it. I will try to do something about it. If it works properly, I can contribute. It is a very nice project. I hope it will grow and grow in the future. Thanks Skyline Team. [image: image.png] Nguyen Huu Khoi

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[neutron][vpnaas][ovn] Pushing VPNaaS support through OVN
by Mohammed Naser 12 Feb '24

12 Feb '24

Hi all! One of the biggest show stoppers for us for OVN is VPNaaS but I think it’s time that we’d like to be involved in getting it over the line, I want to thank Bodo who has shown a lot of patience in getting the code necessary, and it seems that the code works for them in production as well. I’d like to ask if possible for folks to review these two outstanding changes: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/+/847007 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/+/765353 I know Slawek had some concerns, so hoping that raising via the email list if Bodo can address those and over the next bit of time we can get this landed in, since it even has actual proper testing both in CI and with user feedback. Thanks! Mohammed

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about magnum capi for production
by Nguyễn Hữu Khôi 08 Feb '24

08 Feb '24

Hello guys. Could you share with me some experience about using Magnum CAPI in production? https://github.com/vexxhost/magnum-cluster-api Thank you so much. Nguyen Huu Khoi

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[all] SQLAlchemy 2.x support in Bobcat
by Thomas Goirand 02 Feb '24

02 Feb '24

Hi, As you may know, and to my great frustration, I'm not the maintainer of SQLAlchemy in Debian, even though OpenStack is the biggest consumer of it. The current maintainer insists that he wants to upload SQLA 2.x in Unstable, potentially breaking all of OpenStack. At the present moment, if I understand correctly, we're not there yet, and Bobcat doesn't have such a support. It would be ok for me, *IF* there are patches available on master, that I could backport to Bobcat and maintain in the debian/patches folder of each project. However, the biggest current annoyance, is that I have no idea where we are at. Are we close to such a support? Is there a list of patches to apply on top of Bobcat that is maintained somewhere? Please enlighten me... :) Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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