[Openstack] Production openstack on 5 node

John van Ommen john.vanommen at gmail.com
Wed Jun 21 19:49:11 UTC 2017


I couldn't agree more. OpenStack deployment is not a trivial task. Do not
reinvent the wheel.

John

On Jun 21, 2017 12:04 PM, "Erik McCormick" <emccormick at cirrusseven.com>
wrote:

> If you are a Puppet shop you should check out the Puppet community
> modules. You will get familiar with all the inner goo as you'll need your
> own composition layer (in my case a series of hiera files). There's no
> reason to reinvent the wheel unless you really want to.
>
> -Erik
>
> On Jun 21, 2017 2:19 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you all of you for your opinion, As mike suggested i am also
>> planning to brew home grown puppet module to understand each and every
>> component and their role instead of grabbing third party tool, I am
>> sure OOO is best for 100 deploying 100 compute node but in my setup we
>> have only 5 servers and its not worth it to manage undercloud server.
>>
>> We are puppet shop so it would be easy to write own code and go from
>> there.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:25 AM, Remo Mattei <remo at italy1.com> wrote:
>> > I did a deployment with cs9 hp it was pretty bad. I hope the new one
>> does
>> > better.
>> >
>> > Nevertheless I do not see many using hp out there. Maybe different
>> regions
>> > like emea do better with that.
>> >
>> > Inviato da iPhone
>> >
>> > Il giorno 20 giu 2017, alle ore 21:10, John van Ommen
>> > <john.vanommen at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>> >
>> > At HPE we originally used TripleO but switched to a 'flat' model.
>> >
>> > I personally didn't see any advantage to Triple O. In theory, it should
>> be
>> > easier to manage and upgrade. In the real world, Helion 3.0 and 4.0 are
>> > superior in every respect.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Jun 20, 2017 9:02 PM, "Remo Mattei" <remo at italy1.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I worked for Red Hat and they really want to get ooo going because the
>> >> installation tools did never work as everyone was hoping. Before Red
>> Hat I
>> >> was at Mirantis and the fuel installation was nice now dead. I know
>> ooo will
>> >> go into containers next couple of release but kolla–Ansible is one of
>> the
>> >> emerging solutions now to get it out fast.
>> >>
>> >> I am doing a project now where I am working on deploying ooo just
>> finished
>> >> the doc for Ocata undercloud.
>> >>
>> >> Just my two cents to concord with Mike’s statement.
>> >>
>> >> Remo
>> >>
>> >> Inviato da iPhone
>> >>
>> >> Il giorno 20 giu 2017, alle ore 20:51, Mike Smith <
>> mismith at overstock.com>
>> >> ha scritto:
>> >>
>> >> There are definitely 1,001 opinions on what is “best”.  We use RDO at
>> >> Overstock and we use home-grown puppet modules because we do our own
>> puppet
>> >> modules for everything else we do here.  We based everything around the
>> >> official Openstack install documents and we do it because we want to
>> *fully*
>> >> understand everything we can instead of treating it like a black box
>> that
>> >> knows how to do the magic.
>> >>
>> >> However, there are lots of options out there - ansible, kolla, puppet
>> plus
>> >> vendor-specific options too like those provided by Mirantis.  If there
>> are
>> >> config management tools (ansible, puppet, etc) that you already use,
>> you may
>> >> want to check out the Openstack options for those.  You are correct
>> that
>> >> that packstack is more of a ‘all-in-one-server’ installer for a quick
>> POC.
>> >> It can to more, but I think RDO recommends “Triple-O” (which stands for
>> >> Openstack-on-Openstack) for production RDO deploys.  Since they are
>> >> affiliated with RedHat, they would also lean heavily towards the
>> Ansible
>> >> option as well.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mike Smith
>> >> Overstock Cloud Team
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 20, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Erik McCormick <
>> emccormick at cirrusseven.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This is a religious discussion for most, but I would suggest Kolla. It
>> >> takes out a lot of the guess work, has a good upgrade mechanism, and
>> is well
>> >> supported by the community via mailing list and ORC. Take a look.
>> >>
>> >> -Erik
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jun 20, 2017 7:15 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> We are deploying 5 node openstack cloud for internal use and wondering
>> >>> what method we should use, initial test was on RDO packstack but i
>> >>> heard packstack isn't good for production, some people on google
>> >>> suggesting using triplo. I found its little complicated because you
>> >>> need one more extra server run undercloud openstack to deploy
>> >>> overcloud openstack, should i really use triplo or is there any other
>> >>> and easy method which can allow us to upgrade in future also.
>> >>>
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