<div dir="auto">I couldn't agree more. OpenStack deployment is not a trivial task. Do not reinvent the wheel.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 21, 2017 12:04 PM, "Erik McCormick" <<a href="mailto:emccormick@cirrusseven.com">emccormick@cirrusseven.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">If you are a Puppet shop you should check out the Puppet community modules. You will get familiar with all the inner goo as you'll need your own composition layer (in my case a series of hiera files). There's no reason to reinvent the wheel unless you really want to.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-Erik</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 21, 2017 2:19 PM, "Satish Patel" <<a href="mailto:satish.txt@gmail.com" target="_blank">satish.txt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thank you all of you for your opinion, As mike suggested i am also<br>
planning to brew home grown puppet module to understand each and every<br>
component and their role instead of grabbing third party tool, I am<br>
sure OOO is best for 100 deploying 100 compute node but in my setup we<br>
have only 5 servers and its not worth it to manage undercloud server.<br>
<br>
We are puppet shop so it would be easy to write own code and go from there.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:25 AM, Remo Mattei <<a href="mailto:remo@italy1.com" target="_blank">remo@italy1.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I did a deployment with cs9 hp it was pretty bad. I hope the new one does<br>
> better.<br>
><br>
> Nevertheless I do not see many using hp out there. Maybe different regions<br>
> like emea do better with that.<br>
><br>
> Inviato da iPhone<br>
><br>
> Il giorno 20 giu 2017, alle ore 21:10, John van Ommen<br>
> <<a href="mailto:john.vanommen@gmail.com" target="_blank">john.vanommen@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br>
><br>
> At HPE we originally used TripleO but switched to a 'flat' model.<br>
><br>
> I personally didn't see any advantage to Triple O. In theory, it should be<br>
> easier to manage and upgrade. In the real world, Helion 3.0 and 4.0 are<br>
> superior in every respect.<br>
><br>
> John<br>
><br>
> On Jun 20, 2017 9:02 PM, "Remo Mattei" <<a href="mailto:remo@italy1.com" target="_blank">remo@italy1.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I worked for Red Hat and they really want to get ooo going because the<br>
>> installation tools did never work as everyone was hoping. Before Red Hat I<br>
>> was at Mirantis and the fuel installation was nice now dead. I know ooo will<br>
>> go into containers next couple of release but kolla–Ansible is one of the<br>
>> emerging solutions now to get it out fast.<br>
>><br>
>> I am doing a project now where I am working on deploying ooo just finished<br>
>> the doc for Ocata undercloud.<br>
>><br>
>> Just my two cents to concord with Mike’s statement.<br>
>><br>
>> Remo<br>
>><br>
>> Inviato da iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> Il giorno 20 giu 2017, alle ore 20:51, Mike Smith <<a href="mailto:mismith@overstock.com" target="_blank">mismith@overstock.com</a>><br>
>> ha scritto:<br>
>><br>
>> There are definitely 1,001 opinions on what is “best”. We use RDO at<br>
>> Overstock and we use home-grown puppet modules because we do our own puppet<br>
>> modules for everything else we do here. We based everything around the<br>
>> official Openstack install documents and we do it because we want to *fully*<br>
>> understand everything we can instead of treating it like a black box that<br>
>> knows how to do the magic.<br>
>><br>
>> However, there are lots of options out there - ansible, kolla, puppet plus<br>
>> vendor-specific options too like those provided by Mirantis. If there are<br>
>> config management tools (ansible, puppet, etc) that you already use, you may<br>
>> want to check out the Openstack options for those. You are correct that<br>
>> that packstack is more of a ‘all-in-one-server’ installer for a quick POC.<br>
>> It can to more, but I think RDO recommends “Triple-O” (which stands for<br>
>> Openstack-on-Openstack) for production RDO deploys. Since they are<br>
>> affiliated with RedHat, they would also lean heavily towards the Ansible<br>
>> option as well.<br>
>><br>
>> Good luck!<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Mike Smith<br>
>> Overstock Cloud Team<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Erik McCormick <<a href="mailto:emccormick@cirrusseven.com" target="_blank">emccormick@cirrusseven.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> This is a religious discussion for most, but I would suggest Kolla. It<br>
>> takes out a lot of the guess work, has a good upgrade mechanism, and is well<br>
>> supported by the community via mailing list and ORC. Take a look.<br>
>><br>
>> -Erik<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Jun 20, 2017 7:15 PM, "Satish Patel" <<a href="mailto:satish.txt@gmail.com" target="_blank">satish.txt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> We are deploying 5 node openstack cloud for internal use and wondering<br>
>>> what method we should use, initial test was on RDO packstack but i<br>
>>> heard packstack isn't good for production, some people on google<br>
>>> suggesting using triplo. I found its little complicated because you<br>
>>> need one more extra server run undercloud openstack to deploy<br>
>>> overcloud openstack, should i really use triplo or is there any other<br>
>>> and easy method which can allow us to upgrade in future also.<br>
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