Open Stack

Probably a good call :P.

Depends on what you're looking for. There's no right answer that applies to
everyone.


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/21/2013 10:15 AM, YunQiang Su wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Chuck Short <chuck.short at canonical.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Martinx - ¥¸¥§©`¥à¥º <
>>> thiagocmartinsc at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I'm a "Ubuntu evangelist", my entire family uses Ubuntu!
>>>>
>>>> But, I trying to understand one thing:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1- Why OpenStack packages for Ubuntu is very "manual intensive", while
>>>> on
>>>> Debian it is fully automated (with dbconfig-common / better packaging)?
>>>> Why?!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no automation for Ubuntu but, OpenStack on Debian is fully
>>>> automated... The keystone users and endpoints managed automatically by
>>>> Debian (db syncs, mysql, etc), but not by Ubuntu...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The packages do enough to get the services running.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is there any special reason to not automate Ubuntu OpenStack packages,
>>>> just like Debian does?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The goal of the Ubuntu OpenStack packages to make it easily deploy in
>>> large
>>> environments either using juju (preferred option ;),  puppet, or chef. In
>>> order to do this we keep the packaging simple and let the service
>>> deployment/configuration management tool to do the setup of OpenStack
>>> based
>>> on their environment.
>>>
>>> That being said we think that keystone users and endpoints should not be
>>> managed by debconf since most users who deploy at a large scale will not
>>> use
>>> them in their deployments.
>>>
>> This is from Debian Guys:
>> https://wiki.debian.org/OpenStackHowto/Folsom#Why_
>> choosing_Debian_and_not_Ubuntu_to_run_Openstack.3F
>>
>
> There be dragons here.
>
> I suggest we drop the conversation, as it won't get better from this point
> :)
>
> -jay
>
>
>
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