[openstack-dev] stackforge projects are not second class citizens

Joe Gordon joe.gordon0 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 15 10:20:22 UTC 2015

One of the stated problems the 'big tent' is supposed to solve is:

'The binary nature of the integrated release results in projects outside
the integrated release failing to get the recognition they deserve.
"Non-official" projects are second- or third-class citizens which can't get
development resources. Alternative solutions can't emerge in the shadow of
the blessed approach. Becoming part of the integrated release, which was
originally designed to be a technical decision, quickly became a
life-or-death question for new projects, and a political/community
minefield.' [0]

Meaning projects should see an uptick in development once they drop their
second-class citizenship and join OpenStack. Now that we have been living
in the world of the big tent for several months now, we can see if this
claim is true.

Below is a list of the first few few projects to join OpenStack after the
big tent, All of which have now been part of OpenStack for at least two

* Mangum -  Tue Mar 24 20:17:36 2015
* Murano - Tue Mar 24 20:48:25 2015
* Congress - Tue Mar 31 20:24:04 2015
* Rally - Tue Apr 7 21:25:53 2015

When looking at stackalytics [2] for each project, we don't see any
noticeably change in number of reviews, contributors, or number of commits
from before and after each project joined OpenStack.

So what does this mean? At least in the short term moving from Stackforge
to OpenStack does not result in an increase in development resources (too
early to know about the long term).  One of the three reasons for the big
tent appears to be unfounded, but the other two reasons hold.  The only
thing I think this information changes is what peoples expectations should
be when applying to join OpenStack.

[1] Ignoring OpenStackClent since the repos were always in OpenStack it
just didn't have a formal home in the governance repo.
[2] h <http://stackalytics.com/?module=openstackclient-group&metric=commits>*http://stackalytics.com/?module=magnum-group&metric=commits
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