[OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party

Steve Weston steve.weston at triniplex.com
Tue Dec 9 04:48:08 UTC 2014


Times are entered.  Let the voting begin!!

On 12/8/14 7:29 PM, Kurt Taylor wrote:
> Thanks Steve, you beat me to it by just a few minutes.  :)  Can you 
> load up these times?
>
> I was going to propose the following (all UTC and on Wednesday, 
> alternating weeks):
> A) 12:00 and 22:00
> B) 13:00 and 02:00
> C) 14:00 and 03:00
> D) 15:00 and 04:00
>
> These times would alternate weeks, for instance one week the first 
> time, the next week the second time.
>
> Vote for your favorite from the above, A, B, C, D.
>
> Thanks everyone!
> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Steve Weston 
> <steve.weston at triniplex.com <mailto:steve.weston at triniplex.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Everyone,
>
>     I have summarized the responses so far in a Google spreadsheet
>     document [1].
>
>     Looks like the consensus has converged on alternating meetings, in
>     UTC:
>
>     Week 1 - Mondays 1800 or 1300
>     Week 2 - Tuesdays 0800
>
>     I would be agreeable to moving the Monday meeting to Wednesday,
>     and alternating as Kurt suggested.  I have set up a Google
>     moderator page [2] so that all interested parties can provide
>     their input for a final tally.
>
>     [1]
>     https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1glmZirKpp1wGvcJ0Zx35IkmJ23CSpfq2NoAK3_vW6b8/pubhtml
>     [2] https://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=21b93c
>
>     Thanks,
>     Steve Weston
>     Triniplex
>
>     On 12/8/14 5:48 AM, trinath.somanchi at freescale.com
>     <mailto:trinath.somanchi at freescale.com> wrote:
>>
>>     With Kurt Taylor. +1
>>
>>     Very nice idea to start with.
>>
>>     --
>>
>>     Trinath Somanchi - B39208
>>
>>     trinath.somanchi at freescale.com| extn: 4048
>>
>>     *From:*Kurt Taylor [mailto:kurt.r.taylor at gmail.com]
>>     *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 8:39 PM
>>     *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>>     questions); openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
>>     <mailto:openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev]
>>     [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
>>
>>     In my opinion, further discussion is needed. The proposal on the
>>     table is to have 2 weekly meetings, one at the existing time of
>>     1800UTC on Monday and, also in the same week, to have another
>>     meeting at 0800 UTC on Tuesday.
>>
>>     Here are some of the problems that I see with this approach:
>>
>>     1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is
>>     needed at this stage of the working group. There just isn't
>>     enough meeting content to justify having two meetings every week.
>>
>>     2. Decisions: Any decision made at one meeting will potentially
>>     be undone at the next, or at least not fully explained. It will
>>     be difficult to keep consistent direction with the overall work
>>     group.
>>
>>     3. Meeting chair(s): Currently we do not have a commitment for a
>>     long-term chair of this new second weekly meeting. I will not be
>>     able to attend this new meeting at the proposed time.
>>
>>     4. Current meeting time: I am not aware of anyone that likes the
>>     current time of 1800 UTC on Monday. The current time is the main
>>     reason it is hard for EU and APAC CI Operators to attend.
>>
>>     My proposal was to have only 1 meeting per week at alternating
>>     times, just as other work groups have done to solve this problem.
>>     (See examples at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings)  I
>>     volunteered to chair, then ask other CI Operators to chair as the
>>     meetings evolved. The meeting times could be any between
>>     1300-0300 UTC. That way, one week we are good for US and Europe,
>>     the next week for APAC.
>>
>>     Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
>>
>>     On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM, trinath.somanchi at freescale.com
>>     <mailto:trinath.somanchi at freescale.com>
>>     <trinath.somanchi at freescale.com
>>     <mailto:trinath.somanchi at freescale.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         +1.
>>
>>         --
>>         Trinath Somanchi - B39208
>>         trinath.somanchi at freescale.com
>>         <mailto:trinath.somanchi at freescale.com> | extn: 4048
>>
>>         -----Original Message-----
>>         From: Anita Kuno [mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info
>>         <mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info>]
>>         Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 3:55 AM
>>         To: openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
>>         <mailto:openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org>
>>
>>         Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev]
>>         [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
>>
>>         On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri Marcovitch wrote:
>>         > Hello Anteaya,
>>         >
>>         > A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00 UTC time will be great (Israel).
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Thanks
>>         > Omri
>>         >
>>         > -----Original Message-----
>>         > From: Joshua Hesketh [mailto:joshua.hesketh at rackspace.com
>>         <mailto:joshua.hesketh at rackspace.com>]
>>         > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:04 AM
>>         > To: He, Yongli; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for
>>         usage
>>         > questions); openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
>>         <mailto:openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org>
>>         > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra]
>>         [third-party]Time for
>>         > Additional Meeting for third-party
>>         >
>>         > Hey,
>>         >
>>         > 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw.
>>         >
>>         > Cheers,
>>         > Josh
>>         >
>>         > Rackspace Australia
>>         >
>>         > On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote:
>>         >> anteaya,
>>         >>
>>         >> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal
>>         time for china.
>>         >>
>>         >> if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time
>>         between UTC
>>         >> 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to
>>         home and
>>         >> dinner.)
>>         >>
>>         >> Yongi He
>>         >> -----Original Message-----
>>         >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info
>>         <mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info>]
>>         >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM
>>         >> To: openstack Development Mailing List;
>>         >> openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
>>         <mailto:openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org>
>>         >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional
>>         Meeting for
>>         >> third-party
>>         >>
>>         >> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit
>>         session was to start up an additional meeting for CI
>>         operators to participate from non-North American time zones.
>>         >>
>>         >> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work
>>         for you. The current third party meeting is on Mondays at
>>         1800 utc which works well since Infra meetings are on
>>         Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for Europe and
>>         APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal.
>>         >>
>>         >> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for
>>         these meetings, he is in Australia.
>>         >>
>>         >> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for
>>         those interested and then we can narrow it down and pick a
>>         channel.
>>         >>
>>         >> Thanks everyone,
>>         >> Anita.
>>         >>
>>
>>         Okay first of all thanks to everyone who replied.
>>
>>         Again, to clarify, the purpose of this thread has been to
>>         find a suitable additional third-party meeting time geared
>>         towards folks in EU and APAC. We live on a sphere, there is
>>         no time that will suit everyone.
>>
>>         It looks like we are converging on 0800 UTC as a time and I
>>         am going to suggest Tuesdays. We have very little competition
>>         for space at that date
>>         + time combination so we can use #openstack-meeting (I have
>>         already
>>         booked the space on the wikipage).
>>
>>         So barring further discussion, see you then!
>>
>>         Thanks everyone,
>>         Anita.
>>
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