[OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party

Anita Kuno anteaya at anteaya.info
Tue Dec 9 06:50:24 UTC 2014


I'm not doing alternating meetings. I am doing additional meetings as I
always said I would.

I will be in channel at 0800 utc in #openstack-meeting on Tuesday.

All are welcome to attend.

Thank you,
Anita.

On 12/08/2014 09:48 PM, Steve Weston wrote:
> Times are entered.  Let the voting begin!!
> 
> On 12/8/14 7:29 PM, Kurt Taylor wrote:
>> Thanks Steve, you beat me to it by just a few minutes.  :)  Can you
>> load up these times?
>>
>> I was going to propose the following (all UTC and on Wednesday,
>> alternating weeks):
>> A) 12:00 and 22:00
>> B) 13:00 and 02:00
>> C) 14:00 and 03:00
>> D) 15:00 and 04:00
>>
>> These times would alternate weeks, for instance one week the first
>> time, the next week the second time.
>>
>> Vote for your favorite from the above, A, B, C, D.
>>
>> Thanks everyone!
>> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Steve Weston
>> <steve.weston at triniplex.com <mailto:steve.weston at triniplex.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Everyone,
>>
>>     I have summarized the responses so far in a Google spreadsheet
>>     document [1].
>>
>>     Looks like the consensus has converged on alternating meetings, in
>>     UTC:
>>
>>     Week 1 - Mondays 1800 or 1300
>>     Week 2 - Tuesdays 0800
>>
>>     I would be agreeable to moving the Monday meeting to Wednesday,
>>     and alternating as Kurt suggested.  I have set up a Google
>>     moderator page [2] so that all interested parties can provide
>>     their input for a final tally.
>>
>>     [1]
>>    
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1glmZirKpp1wGvcJ0Zx35IkmJ23CSpfq2NoAK3_vW6b8/pubhtml
>>
>>     [2] https://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=21b93c
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Steve Weston
>>     Triniplex
>>
>>     On 12/8/14 5:48 AM, trinath.somanchi at freescale.com
>>     <mailto:trinath.somanchi at freescale.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     With Kurt Taylor. +1
>>>
>>>     Very nice idea to start with.
>>>
>>>     --
>>>
>>>     Trinath Somanchi - B39208
>>>
>>>     trinath.somanchi at freescale.com| extn: 4048
>>>
>>>     *From:*Kurt Taylor [mailto:kurt.r.taylor at gmail.com]
>>>     *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 8:39 PM
>>>     *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>>>     questions); openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
>>>     <mailto:openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org>
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev]
>>>     [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
>>>
>>>     In my opinion, further discussion is needed. The proposal on the
>>>     table is to have 2 weekly meetings, one at the existing time of
>>>     1800UTC on Monday and, also in the same week, to have another
>>>     meeting at 0800 UTC on Tuesday.
>>>
>>>     Here are some of the problems that I see with this approach:
>>>
>>>     1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is
>>>     needed at this stage of the working group. There just isn't
>>>     enough meeting content to justify having two meetings every week.
>>>
>>>     2. Decisions: Any decision made at one meeting will potentially
>>>     be undone at the next, or at least not fully explained. It will
>>>     be difficult to keep consistent direction with the overall work
>>>     group.
>>>
>>>     3. Meeting chair(s): Currently we do not have a commitment for a
>>>     long-term chair of this new second weekly meeting. I will not be
>>>     able to attend this new meeting at the proposed time.
>>>
>>>     4. Current meeting time: I am not aware of anyone that likes the
>>>     current time of 1800 UTC on Monday. The current time is the main
>>>     reason it is hard for EU and APAC CI Operators to attend.
>>>
>>>     My proposal was to have only 1 meeting per week at alternating
>>>     times, just as other work groups have done to solve this problem.
>>>     (See examples at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings)  I
>>>     volunteered to chair, then ask other CI Operators to chair as the
>>>     meetings evolved. The meeting times could be any between
>>>     1300-0300 UTC. That way, one week we are good for US and Europe,
>>>     the next week for APAC.
>>>
>>>     Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM, trinath.somanchi at freescale.com
>>>     <mailto:trinath.somanchi at freescale.com>
>>>     <trinath.somanchi at freescale.com
>>>     <mailto:trinath.somanchi at freescale.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         +1.
>>>
>>>         --
>>>         Trinath Somanchi - B39208
>>>         trinath.somanchi at freescale.com
>>>         <mailto:trinath.somanchi at freescale.com> | extn: 4048
>>>
>>>         -----Original Message-----
>>>         From: Anita Kuno [mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info
>>>         <mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info>]
>>>         Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 3:55 AM
>>>         To: openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
>>>         <mailto:openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org>
>>>
>>>         Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev]
>>>         [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
>>>
>>>         On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri Marcovitch wrote:
>>>         > Hello Anteaya,
>>>         >
>>>         > A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00 UTC time will be great
>>> (Israel).
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > Thanks
>>>         > Omri
>>>         >
>>>         > -----Original Message-----
>>>         > From: Joshua Hesketh [mailto:joshua.hesketh at rackspace.com
>>>         <mailto:joshua.hesketh at rackspace.com>]
>>>         > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:04 AM
>>>         > To: He, Yongli; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for
>>>         usage
>>>         > questions); openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
>>>         <mailto:openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org>
>>>         > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra]
>>>         [third-party]Time for
>>>         > Additional Meeting for third-party
>>>         >
>>>         > Hey,
>>>         >
>>>         > 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw.
>>>         >
>>>         > Cheers,
>>>         > Josh
>>>         >
>>>         > Rackspace Australia
>>>         >
>>>         > On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote:
>>>         >> anteaya,
>>>         >>
>>>         >> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal
>>>         time for china.
>>>         >>
>>>         >> if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time
>>>         between UTC
>>>         >> 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to
>>>         home and
>>>         >> dinner.)
>>>         >>
>>>         >> Yongi He
>>>         >> -----Original Message-----
>>>         >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info
>>>         <mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info>]
>>>         >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM
>>>         >> To: openstack Development Mailing List;
>>>         >> openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
>>>         <mailto:openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org>
>>>         >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional
>>>         Meeting for
>>>         >> third-party
>>>         >>
>>>         >> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit
>>>         session was to start up an additional meeting for CI
>>>         operators to participate from non-North American time zones.
>>>         >>
>>>         >> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work
>>>         for you. The current third party meeting is on Mondays at
>>>         1800 utc which works well since Infra meetings are on
>>>         Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for Europe and
>>>         APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal.
>>>         >>
>>>         >> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for
>>>         these meetings, he is in Australia.
>>>         >>
>>>         >> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for
>>>         those interested and then we can narrow it down and pick a
>>>         channel.
>>>         >>
>>>         >> Thanks everyone,
>>>         >> Anita.
>>>         >>
>>>
>>>         Okay first of all thanks to everyone who replied.
>>>
>>>         Again, to clarify, the purpose of this thread has been to
>>>         find a suitable additional third-party meeting time geared
>>>         towards folks in EU and APAC. We live on a sphere, there is
>>>         no time that will suit everyone.
>>>
>>>         It looks like we are converging on 0800 UTC as a time and I
>>>         am going to suggest Tuesdays. We have very little competition
>>>         for space at that date
>>>         + time combination so we can use #openstack-meeting (I have
>>>         already
>>>         booked the space on the wikipage).
>>>
>>>         So barring further discussion, see you then!
>>>
>>>         Thanks everyone,
>>>         Anita.
>>>
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