[OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party

Kurt Taylor kurt.r.taylor at gmail.com
Tue Dec 9 03:29:50 UTC 2014


Thanks Steve, you beat me to it by just a few minutes.  :)  Can you load up
these times?

I was going to propose the following (all UTC and on Wednesday, alternating
weeks):
A) 12:00 and 22:00
B) 13:00 and 02:00
C) 14:00 and 03:00
D) 15:00 and 04:00

These times would alternate weeks, for instance one week the first time,
the next week the second time.

Vote for your favorite from the above, A, B, C, D.

Thanks everyone!
Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)


On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Steve Weston <steve.weston at triniplex.com>
wrote:

>  Hi Everyone,
>
> I have summarized the responses so far in a Google spreadsheet document
> [1].
>
> Looks like the consensus has converged on alternating meetings, in UTC:
>
> Week 1 - Mondays 1800 or 1300
> Week 2 - Tuesdays 0800
>
> I would be agreeable to moving the Monday meeting to Wednesday, and
> alternating as Kurt suggested.  I have set up a Google moderator page [2]
> so that all interested parties can provide their input for a final tally.
>
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1glmZirKpp1wGvcJ0Zx35IkmJ23CSpfq2NoAK3_vW6b8/pubhtml
> [2] https://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=21b93c
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Weston
> Triniplex
>
> On 12/8/14 5:48 AM, trinath.somanchi at freescale.com wrote:
>
>  With Kurt Taylor. +1
>
>
>
> Very nice idea to start with.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Trinath Somanchi - B39208
>
> trinath.somanchi at freescale.com | extn: 4048
>
>
>
> *From:* Kurt Taylor [mailto:kurt.r.taylor at gmail.com
> <kurt.r.taylor at gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 8:39 PM
> *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions);
> openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for
> Additional Meeting for third-party
>
>
>
> In my opinion, further discussion is needed. The proposal on the table is
> to have 2 weekly meetings, one at the existing time of 1800UTC on Monday
> and, also in the same week, to have another meeting at 0800 UTC on Tuesday.
>
>
>
> Here are some of the problems that I see with this approach:
>
>
>
> 1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at
> this stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content to
> justify having two meetings every week.
>
>
>
> 2. Decisions: Any decision made at one meeting will potentially be undone
> at the next, or at least not fully explained. It will be difficult to keep
> consistent direction with the overall work group.
>
>
>
> 3. Meeting chair(s): Currently we do not have a commitment for a long-term
> chair of this new second weekly meeting. I will not be able to attend this
> new meeting at the proposed time.
>
>
>
> 4. Current meeting time: I am not aware of anyone that likes the current
> time of 1800 UTC on Monday. The current time is the main reason it is hard
> for EU and APAC CI Operators to attend.
>
>
>
> My proposal was to have only 1 meeting per week at alternating times, just
> as other work groups have done to solve this problem. (See examples at:
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings)  I volunteered to chair, then
> ask other CI Operators to chair as the meetings evolved. The meeting times
> could be any between 1300-0300 UTC. That way, one week we are good for US
> and Europe, the next week for APAC.
>
>
>
> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM, trinath.somanchi at freescale.com <
> trinath.somanchi at freescale.com> wrote:
>
> +1.
>
> --
> Trinath Somanchi - B39208
> trinath.somanchi at freescale.com | extn: 4048
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info]
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 3:55 AM
> To: openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
>
> Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for
> Additional Meeting for third-party
>
> On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri Marcovitch wrote:
> > Hello Anteaya,
> >
> > A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00 UTC time will be great (Israel).
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Omri
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joshua Hesketh [mailto:joshua.hesketh at rackspace.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:04 AM
> > To: He, Yongli; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
> > questions); openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
> > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for
> > Additional Meeting for third-party
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Josh
> >
> > Rackspace Australia
> >
> > On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote:
> >> anteaya,
> >>
> >> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for china.
> >>
> >> if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time between UTC
> >> 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to home and
> >> dinner.)
> >>
> >> Yongi He
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM
> >> To: openstack Development Mailing List;
> >> openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
> >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for
> >> third-party
> >>
> >> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to
> start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from
> non-North American time zones.
> >>
> >> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The
> current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well
> since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works
> for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal.
> >>
> >> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings,
> he is in Australia.
> >>
> >> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested
> and then we can narrow it down and pick a channel.
> >>
> >> Thanks everyone,
> >> Anita.
> >>
>
> Okay first of all thanks to everyone who replied.
>
> Again, to clarify, the purpose of this thread has been to find a suitable
> additional third-party meeting time geared towards folks in EU and APAC. We
> live on a sphere, there is no time that will suit everyone.
>
> It looks like we are converging on 0800 UTC as a time and I am going to
> suggest Tuesdays. We have very little competition for space at that date
> + time combination so we can use #openstack-meeting (I have already
> booked the space on the wikipage).
>
> So barring further discussion, see you then!
>
> Thanks everyone,
> Anita.
>
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