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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Times are entered.  Let the voting
      begin!!<br>
      <br>
      On 12/8/14 7:29 PM, Kurt Taylor wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAG5OiwhMbt8urOYoKEJM4y-LAnvvp9PtW3T0_sNbK8+6XB_O3w@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Thanks Steve, you beat me to it by just a few
        minutes.  :)  Can you load up these times?
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        <div>I was going to propose the following (all UTC and on
          Wednesday, alternating weeks):</div>
        <div>A) 12:00 and 22:00</div>
        <div>B) 13:00 and 02:00</div>
        <div>C) 14:00 and 03:00</div>
        <div>D) 15:00 and 04:00</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>These times would alternate weeks, for instance one week
          the first time, the next week the second time. </div>
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        <div>Vote for your favorite from the above, A, B, C, D.</div>
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        <div>Thanks everyone!</div>
        <div>Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Steve
          Weston <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:steve.weston@triniplex.com" target="_blank">steve.weston@triniplex.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Hi Everyone,<br>
                <br>
                I have summarized the responses so far in a Google
                spreadsheet document [1].<span class=""><br>
                  <br>
                  Looks like the consensus has converged on alternating
                  meetings, in UTC:<br>
                  <br>
                  Week 1 - Mondays 1800 or 1300<br>
                  Week 2 - Tuesdays 0800<br>
                  <br>
                </span> I would be agreeable to moving the Monday
                meeting to Wednesday, and alternating as Kurt
                suggested.  I have set up a Google moderator page [2] so
                that all interested parties can provide their input for
                a final tally.<span class=""><br>
                  <br>
                  [1]
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1glmZirKpp1wGvcJ0Zx35IkmJ23CSpfq2NoAK3_vW6b8/pubhtml"
                    target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1glmZirKpp1wGvcJ0Zx35IkmJ23CSpfq2NoAK3_vW6b8/pubhtml</a><br>
                  [2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=21b93c"
                    target="_blank">https://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=21b93c</a><br>
                  <br>
                  Thanks,<br>
                  Steve Weston<br>
                  Triniplex<br>
                  <br>
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                  <div class="h5"> On 12/8/14 5:48 AM, <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:trinath.somanchi@freescale.com"
                      target="_blank">trinath.somanchi@freescale.com</a>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">With

                          Kurt Taylor. +1</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Very

                          nice idea to start with.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">--</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Trinath

                          Somanchi - B39208</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#8496b0">trinath.somanchi@</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#8496b0">freescale</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#8496b0">.com</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                          Kurt Taylor [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:kurt.r.taylor@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">mailto:kurt.r.taylor@gmail.com</a>]
                          <br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 05, 2014 8:39 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List
                          (not for usage questions); <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org"
                            target="_blank">openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenStack-Infra]
                          [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for
                          Additional Meeting for third-party</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">In
                            my opinion, further discussion is needed.
                            The proposal on the table is to have 2
                            weekly meetings, one at the existing time of
                            1800UTC on Monday and, also in the same
                            week, to have another meeting at 0800 UTC on
                            Tuesday. </p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Here
                            are some of the problems that I see with
                            this approach:</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:.5in">1. Meeting
                              content: Having 2 meetings per week is
                              more than is needed at this stage of the
                              working group. There just isn't enough
                              meeting content to justify having two
                              meetings every week.</p>
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                              style="margin-left:.5in"> </p>
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                              style="margin-left:.5in">2. Decisions: Any
                              decision made at one meeting will
                              potentially be undone at the next, or at
                              least not fully explained. It will be
                              difficult to keep consistent direction
                              with the overall work group.</p>
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                              style="margin-left:.5in"> </p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:.5in">3. Meeting
                              chair(s): Currently we do not have a
                              commitment for a long-term chair of this
                              new second weekly meeting. I will not be
                              able to attend this new meeting at the
                              proposed time.</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:.5in">4. Current
                              meeting time: I am not aware of anyone
                              that likes the current time of 1800 UTC on
                              Monday. The current time is the main
                              reason it is hard for EU and APAC CI
                              Operators to attend.</p>
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                              style="margin-left:.5in"> </p>
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                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:.5in">My proposal was
                              to have only 1 meeting per week at
                              alternating times, just as other work
                              groups have done to solve this problem.
                              (See examples at: <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"
                                target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings</a>)
                               I volunteered to chair, then ask other CI
                              Operators to chair as the meetings
                              evolved. The meeting times could be any
                              between 1300-0300 UTC. That way, one week
                              we are good for US and Europe, the next
                              week for APAC.</p>
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                              style="margin-left:.5in"> </p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:.5in">Kurt Taylor
                              (krtaylor)</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On
                            Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM, <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:trinath.somanchi@freescale.com"
                              target="_blank">
                              trinath.somanchi@freescale.com</a> <<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:trinath.somanchi@freescale.com"
                              target="_blank">trinath.somanchi@freescale.com</a>>

                            wrote:</p>
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                              style="margin-left:.5in">+1.<br>
                              <br>
                              <span>--</span><br>
                              <span>Trinath Somanchi - B39208</span><br>
                              <span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:trinath.somanchi@freescale.com"
                                  target="_blank">trinath.somanchi@freescale.com</a>
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                              <br>
                              <span>-----Original Message-----</span><br>
                              <span>From: Anita Kuno [mailto:<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:anteaya@anteaya.info"
                                  target="_blank">anteaya@anteaya.info</a>]</span><br>
                              <span>Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014
                                3:55 AM</span><br>
                              <span>To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org"
                                  target="_blank">openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org</a></span></p>
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                                  style="margin-left:.5in">Subject: Re:
                                  [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev]
                                  [third-party]Time for Additional
                                  Meeting for third-party<br>
                                  <br>
                                  On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri
                                  Marcovitch wrote:<br>
                                  > Hello Anteaya,<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00
                                  UTC time will be great (Israel).<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Thanks<br>
                                  > Omri<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > -----Original Message-----<br>
                                  > From: Joshua Hesketh [mailto:<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:joshua.hesketh@rackspace.com"
                                    target="_blank">joshua.hesketh@rackspace.com</a>]<br>
                                  > Sent: Wednesday, December 03,
                                  2014 9:04 AM<br>
                                  > To: He, Yongli; OpenStack
                                  Development Mailing List (not for
                                  usage<br>
                                  > questions); <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org"
                                    target="_blank">openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
                                  > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev]
                                  [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time
                                  for<br>
                                  > Additional Meeting for
                                  third-party<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Hey,<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work
                                  for me most weeks fwiw.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Cheers,<br>
                                  > Josh<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Rackspace Australia<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  >> anteaya,<br>
                                  >><br>
                                  >> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or
                                  UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for
                                  china.<br>
                                  >><br>
                                  >> if there is no time slot
                                  there, just pick up any time between
                                  UTC<br>
                                  >> 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. (
                                  UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to
                                  home and<br>
                                  >> dinner.)<br>
                                  >><br>
                                  >> Yongi He<br>
                                  >> -----Original Message-----<br>
                                  >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:anteaya@anteaya.info"
                                    target="_blank">anteaya@anteaya.info</a>]<br>
                                  >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02,
                                  2014 4:07 AM<br>
                                  >> To: openstack Development
                                  Mailing List;<br>
                                  >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org"
                                    target="_blank">openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
                                  >> Subject: [openstack-dev]
                                  [third-party]Time for Additional
                                  Meeting for<br>
                                  >> third-party<br>
                                  >><br>
                                  >> One of the actions from the
                                  Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was
                                  to start up an additional meeting for
                                  CI operators to participate from
                                  non-North American time zones.<br>
                                  >><br>
                                  >> Please reply to this email
                                  with times/days that would work for
                                  you. The current third party meeting
                                  is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works
                                  well since Infra meetings are on
                                  Tuesdays. If we could find a time that
                                  works for Europe and APAC that is also
                                  on Monday that would be ideal.<br>
                                  >><br>
                                  >> Josh Hesketh has said he will
                                  try to be available for these
                                  meetings, he is in Australia.<br>
                                  >><br>
                                  >> Let's get a sense of what
                                  days and timeframes work for those
                                  interested and then we can narrow it
                                  down and pick a channel.<br>
                                  >><br>
                                  >> Thanks everyone,<br>
                                  >> Anita.<br>
                                  >><br>
                                  <br>
                                  Okay first of all thanks to everyone
                                  who replied.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Again, to clarify, the purpose of this
                                  thread has been to find a suitable
                                  additional third-party meeting time
                                  geared towards folks in EU and APAC.
                                  We live on a sphere, there is no time
                                  that will suit everyone.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  It looks like we are converging on
                                  0800 UTC as a time and I am going to
                                  suggest Tuesdays. We have very little
                                  competition for space at that date<br>
                                  + time combination so we can use
                                  #openstack-meeting (I have already<br>
                                  booked the space on the wikipage).<br>
                                  <br>
                                  So barring further discussion, see you
                                  then!<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Thanks everyone,<br>
                                  Anita.<br>
                                  <br>
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