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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Times are entered. Let the voting
begin!!<br>
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On 12/8/14 7:29 PM, Kurt Taylor wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks Steve, you beat me to it by just a few
minutes. :) Can you load up these times?
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<div>I was going to propose the following (all UTC and on
Wednesday, alternating weeks):</div>
<div>A) 12:00 and 22:00</div>
<div>B) 13:00 and 02:00</div>
<div>C) 14:00 and 03:00</div>
<div>D) 15:00 and 04:00</div>
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<div>These times would alternate weeks, for instance one week
the first time, the next week the second time. </div>
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<div>Vote for your favorite from the above, A, B, C, D.</div>
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<div>Thanks everyone!</div>
<div>Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Steve
Weston <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>Hi Everyone,<br>
<br>
I have summarized the responses so far in a Google
spreadsheet document [1].<span class=""><br>
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Looks like the consensus has converged on alternating
meetings, in UTC:<br>
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Week 1 - Mondays 1800 or 1300<br>
Week 2 - Tuesdays 0800<br>
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</span> I would be agreeable to moving the Monday
meeting to Wednesday, and alternating as Kurt
suggested. I have set up a Google moderator page [2] so
that all interested parties can provide their input for
a final tally.<span class=""><br>
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[1]
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href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1glmZirKpp1wGvcJ0Zx35IkmJ23CSpfq2NoAK3_vW6b8/pubhtml"
target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1glmZirKpp1wGvcJ0Zx35IkmJ23CSpfq2NoAK3_vW6b8/pubhtml</a><br>
[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=21b93c"
target="_blank">https://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=21b93c</a><br>
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Thanks,<br>
Steve Weston<br>
Triniplex<br>
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<div class="h5"> On 12/8/14 5:48 AM, <a
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href="mailto:trinath.somanchi@freescale.com"
target="_blank">trinath.somanchi@freescale.com</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">With
Kurt Taylor. +1</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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nice idea to start with.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Trinath
Somanchi - B39208</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#8496b0">trinath.somanchi@</span><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#8496b0">.com</span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Kurt Taylor [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kurt.r.taylor@gmail.com"
target="_blank">mailto:kurt.r.taylor@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 05, 2014 8:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List
(not for usage questions); <a
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href="mailto:openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org"
target="_blank">openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OpenStack-Infra]
[openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for
Additional Meeting for third-party</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">In
my opinion, further discussion is needed.
The proposal on the table is to have 2
weekly meetings, one at the existing time of
1800UTC on Monday and, also in the same
week, to have another meeting at 0800 UTC on
Tuesday. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Here
are some of the problems that I see with
this approach:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in">1. Meeting
content: Having 2 meetings per week is
more than is needed at this stage of the
working group. There just isn't enough
meeting content to justify having two
meetings every week.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in">2. Decisions: Any
decision made at one meeting will
potentially be undone at the next, or at
least not fully explained. It will be
difficult to keep consistent direction
with the overall work group.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in">3. Meeting
chair(s): Currently we do not have a
commitment for a long-term chair of this
new second weekly meeting. I will not be
able to attend this new meeting at the
proposed time.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in">4. Current
meeting time: I am not aware of anyone
that likes the current time of 1800 UTC on
Monday. The current time is the main
reason it is hard for EU and APAC CI
Operators to attend.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in">My proposal was
to have only 1 meeting per week at
alternating times, just as other work
groups have done to solve this problem.
(See examples at: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"
target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings</a>)
I volunteered to chair, then ask other CI
Operators to chair as the meetings
evolved. The meeting times could be any
between 1300-0300 UTC. That way, one week
we are good for US and Europe, the next
week for APAC.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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(krtaylor)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On
Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM, <a
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target="_blank">
trinath.somanchi@freescale.com</a> <<a
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href="mailto:trinath.somanchi@freescale.com"
target="_blank">trinath.somanchi@freescale.com</a>>
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<span>Trinath Somanchi - B39208</span><br>
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<span>-----Original Message-----</span><br>
<span>From: Anita Kuno [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:anteaya@anteaya.info"
target="_blank">anteaya@anteaya.info</a>]</span><br>
<span>Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014
3:55 AM</span><br>
<span>To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in">Subject: Re:
[OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev]
[third-party]Time for Additional
Meeting for third-party<br>
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On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri
Marcovitch wrote:<br>
> Hello Anteaya,<br>
><br>
> A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00
UTC time will be great (Israel).<br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
> Omri<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Joshua Hesketh [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joshua.hesketh@rackspace.com"
target="_blank">joshua.hesketh@rackspace.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03,
2014 9:04 AM<br>
> To: He, Yongli; OpenStack
Development Mailing List (not for
usage<br>
> questions); <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org"
target="_blank">openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev]
[OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time
for<br>
> Additional Meeting for
third-party<br>
><br>
> Hey,<br>
><br>
> 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work
for me most weeks fwiw.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Josh<br>
><br>
> Rackspace Australia<br>
><br>
> On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli
wrote:<br>
>> anteaya,<br>
>><br>
>> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or
UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for
china.<br>
>><br>
>> if there is no time slot
there, just pick up any time between
UTC<br>
>> 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. (
UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to
home and<br>
>> dinner.)<br>
>><br>
>> Yongi He<br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:anteaya@anteaya.info"
target="_blank">anteaya@anteaya.info</a>]<br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02,
2014 4:07 AM<br>
>> To: openstack Development
Mailing List;<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org"
target="_blank">openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
>> Subject: [openstack-dev]
[third-party]Time for Additional
Meeting for<br>
>> third-party<br>
>><br>
>> One of the actions from the
Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was
to start up an additional meeting for
CI operators to participate from
non-North American time zones.<br>
>><br>
>> Please reply to this email
with times/days that would work for
you. The current third party meeting
is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works
well since Infra meetings are on
Tuesdays. If we could find a time that
works for Europe and APAC that is also
on Monday that would be ideal.<br>
>><br>
>> Josh Hesketh has said he will
try to be available for these
meetings, he is in Australia.<br>
>><br>
>> Let's get a sense of what
days and timeframes work for those
interested and then we can narrow it
down and pick a channel.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks everyone,<br>
>> Anita.<br>
>><br>
<br>
Okay first of all thanks to everyone
who replied.<br>
<br>
Again, to clarify, the purpose of this
thread has been to find a suitable
additional third-party meeting time
geared towards folks in EU and APAC.
We live on a sphere, there is no time
that will suit everyone.<br>
<br>
It looks like we are converging on
0800 UTC as a time and I am going to
suggest Tuesdays. We have very little
competition for space at that date<br>
+ time combination so we can use
#openstack-meeting (I have already<br>
booked the space on the wikipage).<br>
<br>
So barring further discussion, see you
then!<br>
<br>
Thanks everyone,<br>
Anita.<br>
<br>
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