[Openstack] Production openstack on 5 node

Remo Mattei remo at italy1.com
Sun Jun 25 20:30:05 UTC 2017


Dvr is good option if you want to implement a way to have your vms always available. It needs ovs. 

I still have not seen a doc details on implementation yet. 

:) 

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 25 giu 2017, alle ore 12:38, Satish Patel <satish.txt at gmail.com> ha scritto:
> 
> Thank you folks!
> 
> I have 5 node so following role i am planning to implement, I am
> little confused related network component, should i use DVR
> (distributed virtual router ) but problem is every single node need
> public IP address in that case, first time building production style
> openstack so don't know what would be the best option?
> 
> 1 controller + network
> 4 compute node
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Mike Smith <mismith at overstock.com> wrote:
>> Agree you should definitely check out what is already out there in community
>> if you are starting from scratch.  In our specific case, we do our puppet
>> configs manually because 1) we are still on puppet v3 for everything else
>> and 2) we have been doing it this way since Folsom and it’s worked well.
>> 
>> We are about to build another new cluster on Ocata and I think for that one
>> I will try and leverage more of the community puppet stuff if possible.
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2017, at 1:49 PM, John van Ommen <john.vanommen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I couldn't agree more. OpenStack deployment is not a trivial task. Do not
>> reinvent the wheel.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2017 12:04 PM, "Erik McCormick" <emccormick at cirrusseven.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are a Puppet shop you should check out the Puppet community
>>> modules. You will get familiar with all the inner goo as you'll need your
>>> own composition layer (in my case a series of hiera files). There's no
>>> reason to reinvent the wheel unless you really want to.
>>> 
>>> -Erik
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 21, 2017 2:19 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you all of you for your opinion, As mike suggested i am also
>>>> planning to brew home grown puppet module to understand each and every
>>>> component and their role instead of grabbing third party tool, I am
>>>> sure OOO is best for 100 deploying 100 compute node but in my setup we
>>>> have only 5 servers and its not worth it to manage undercloud server.
>>>> 
>>>> We are puppet shop so it would be easy to write own code and go from
>>>> there.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:25 AM, Remo Mattei <remo at italy1.com> wrote:
>>>>> I did a deployment with cs9 hp it was pretty bad. I hope the new one
>>>>> does
>>>>> better.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nevertheless I do not see many using hp out there. Maybe different
>>>>> regions
>>>>> like emea do better with that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Inviato da iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> Il giorno 20 giu 2017, alle ore 21:10, John van Ommen
>>>>> <john.vanommen at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>> 
>>>>> At HPE we originally used TripleO but switched to a 'flat' model.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I personally didn't see any advantage to Triple O. In theory, it should
>>>>> be
>>>>> easier to manage and upgrade. In the real world, Helion 3.0 and 4.0 are
>>>>> superior in every respect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2017 9:02 PM, "Remo Mattei" <remo at italy1.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I worked for Red Hat and they really want to get ooo going because the
>>>>>> installation tools did never work as everyone was hoping. Before Red
>>>>>> Hat I
>>>>>> was at Mirantis and the fuel installation was nice now dead. I know
>>>>>> ooo will
>>>>>> go into containers next couple of release but kolla–Ansible is one of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> emerging solutions now to get it out fast.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am doing a project now where I am working on deploying ooo just
>>>>>> finished
>>>>>> the doc for Ocata undercloud.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just my two cents to concord with Mike’s statement.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Remo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Inviato da iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Il giorno 20 giu 2017, alle ore 20:51, Mike Smith
>>>>>> <mismith at overstock.com>
>>>>>> ha scritto:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are definitely 1,001 opinions on what is “best”.  We use RDO at
>>>>>> Overstock and we use home-grown puppet modules because we do our own
>>>>>> puppet
>>>>>> modules for everything else we do here.  We based everything around
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> official Openstack install documents and we do it because we want to
>>>>>> *fully*
>>>>>> understand everything we can instead of treating it like a black box
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> knows how to do the magic.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, there are lots of options out there - ansible, kolla, puppet
>>>>>> plus
>>>>>> vendor-specific options too like those provided by Mirantis.  If there
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> config management tools (ansible, puppet, etc) that you already use,
>>>>>> you may
>>>>>> want to check out the Openstack options for those.  You are correct
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> that packstack is more of a ‘all-in-one-server’ installer for a quick
>>>>>> POC.
>>>>>> It can to more, but I think RDO recommends “Triple-O” (which stands
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Openstack-on-Openstack) for production RDO deploys.  Since they are
>>>>>> affiliated with RedHat, they would also lean heavily towards the
>>>>>> Ansible
>>>>>> option as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike Smith
>>>>>> Overstock Cloud Team
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Erik McCormick
>>>>>> <emccormick at cirrusseven.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is a religious discussion for most, but I would suggest Kolla. It
>>>>>> takes out a lot of the guess work, has a good upgrade mechanism, and
>>>>>> is well
>>>>>> supported by the community via mailing list and ORC. Take a look.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Erik
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2017 7:15 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are deploying 5 node openstack cloud for internal use and
>>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>> what method we should use, initial test was on RDO packstack but i
>>>>>>> heard packstack isn't good for production, some people on google
>>>>>>> suggesting using triplo. I found its little complicated because you
>>>>>>> need one more extra server run undercloud openstack to deploy
>>>>>>> overcloud openstack, should i really use triplo or is there any other
>>>>>>> and easy method which can allow us to upgrade in future also.
>>>>>>> 
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