[Openstack] Production openstack on 5 node
Satish Patel
satish.txt at gmail.com
Sun Jun 25 19:38:51 UTC 2017
Thank you folks!
I have 5 node so following role i am planning to implement, I am
little confused related network component, should i use DVR
(distributed virtual router ) but problem is every single node need
public IP address in that case, first time building production style
openstack so don't know what would be the best option?
1 controller + network
4 compute node
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Mike Smith <mismith at overstock.com> wrote:
> Agree you should definitely check out what is already out there in community
> if you are starting from scratch. In our specific case, we do our puppet
> configs manually because 1) we are still on puppet v3 for everything else
> and 2) we have been doing it this way since Folsom and it’s worked well.
>
> We are about to build another new cluster on Ocata and I think for that one
> I will try and leverage more of the community puppet stuff if possible.
>
> On Jun 21, 2017, at 1:49 PM, John van Ommen <john.vanommen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I couldn't agree more. OpenStack deployment is not a trivial task. Do not
> reinvent the wheel.
>
> John
>
> On Jun 21, 2017 12:04 PM, "Erik McCormick" <emccormick at cirrusseven.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> If you are a Puppet shop you should check out the Puppet community
>> modules. You will get familiar with all the inner goo as you'll need your
>> own composition layer (in my case a series of hiera files). There's no
>> reason to reinvent the wheel unless you really want to.
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2017 2:19 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you all of you for your opinion, As mike suggested i am also
>>> planning to brew home grown puppet module to understand each and every
>>> component and their role instead of grabbing third party tool, I am
>>> sure OOO is best for 100 deploying 100 compute node but in my setup we
>>> have only 5 servers and its not worth it to manage undercloud server.
>>>
>>> We are puppet shop so it would be easy to write own code and go from
>>> there.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:25 AM, Remo Mattei <remo at italy1.com> wrote:
>>> > I did a deployment with cs9 hp it was pretty bad. I hope the new one
>>> > does
>>> > better.
>>> >
>>> > Nevertheless I do not see many using hp out there. Maybe different
>>> > regions
>>> > like emea do better with that.
>>> >
>>> > Inviato da iPhone
>>> >
>>> > Il giorno 20 giu 2017, alle ore 21:10, John van Ommen
>>> > <john.vanommen at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>> >
>>> > At HPE we originally used TripleO but switched to a 'flat' model.
>>> >
>>> > I personally didn't see any advantage to Triple O. In theory, it should
>>> > be
>>> > easier to manage and upgrade. In the real world, Helion 3.0 and 4.0 are
>>> > superior in every respect.
>>> >
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> > On Jun 20, 2017 9:02 PM, "Remo Mattei" <remo at italy1.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I worked for Red Hat and they really want to get ooo going because the
>>> >> installation tools did never work as everyone was hoping. Before Red
>>> >> Hat I
>>> >> was at Mirantis and the fuel installation was nice now dead. I know
>>> >> ooo will
>>> >> go into containers next couple of release but kolla–Ansible is one of
>>> >> the
>>> >> emerging solutions now to get it out fast.
>>> >>
>>> >> I am doing a project now where I am working on deploying ooo just
>>> >> finished
>>> >> the doc for Ocata undercloud.
>>> >>
>>> >> Just my two cents to concord with Mike’s statement.
>>> >>
>>> >> Remo
>>> >>
>>> >> Inviato da iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> Il giorno 20 giu 2017, alle ore 20:51, Mike Smith
>>> >> <mismith at overstock.com>
>>> >> ha scritto:
>>> >>
>>> >> There are definitely 1,001 opinions on what is “best”. We use RDO at
>>> >> Overstock and we use home-grown puppet modules because we do our own
>>> >> puppet
>>> >> modules for everything else we do here. We based everything around
>>> >> the
>>> >> official Openstack install documents and we do it because we want to
>>> >> *fully*
>>> >> understand everything we can instead of treating it like a black box
>>> >> that
>>> >> knows how to do the magic.
>>> >>
>>> >> However, there are lots of options out there - ansible, kolla, puppet
>>> >> plus
>>> >> vendor-specific options too like those provided by Mirantis. If there
>>> >> are
>>> >> config management tools (ansible, puppet, etc) that you already use,
>>> >> you may
>>> >> want to check out the Openstack options for those. You are correct
>>> >> that
>>> >> that packstack is more of a ‘all-in-one-server’ installer for a quick
>>> >> POC.
>>> >> It can to more, but I think RDO recommends “Triple-O” (which stands
>>> >> for
>>> >> Openstack-on-Openstack) for production RDO deploys. Since they are
>>> >> affiliated with RedHat, they would also lean heavily towards the
>>> >> Ansible
>>> >> option as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> Good luck!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Mike Smith
>>> >> Overstock Cloud Team
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jun 20, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Erik McCormick
>>> >> <emccormick at cirrusseven.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> This is a religious discussion for most, but I would suggest Kolla. It
>>> >> takes out a lot of the guess work, has a good upgrade mechanism, and
>>> >> is well
>>> >> supported by the community via mailing list and ORC. Take a look.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Erik
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jun 20, 2017 7:15 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We are deploying 5 node openstack cloud for internal use and
>>> >>> wondering
>>> >>> what method we should use, initial test was on RDO packstack but i
>>> >>> heard packstack isn't good for production, some people on google
>>> >>> suggesting using triplo. I found its little complicated because you
>>> >>> need one more extra server run undercloud openstack to deploy
>>> >>> overcloud openstack, should i really use triplo or is there any other
>>> >>> and easy method which can allow us to upgrade in future also.
>>> >>>
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