Open Stack

*My short list of requirement is:*
- Legacy Stateful Application on my VMs
- No time to change the application code base(to convert them as stateless
apps which are work better on openstack)
- Completely opensource solution(HA in openstack need "stratus allways on
cloud" solution or something like that, which are not opensource)
- High amount of code stability
- Enterprise proven solution
- Better siute for private cloud instead of public
- High amount of HA, fault tolerance, resiliency in underlying layers
*By the aim of these requirement description, what about the decision
between OpenStack & CloudStack?*


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:29 PM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolzadeh at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Paul for your responce.
> But, My case was not a few server in small server room. I have been talked
> about a huge datacenter with more than 1000 server, SAN storage devices,
> complex physical networks and so on, with high amount of change in IT needs.
> Yes you right. Sorry for my miss-typping. My mean was "I don't want
> *public* cloud". In other words "I don't want to deliver *public* cloud".
> I want to use private cloud on my datacenter. But becasue of my in-ability
> to change my legacy application codebase, the datacenter virtualization is
> better matched to my requirements, instead of infrastructure provisioning
> cloud solution(e.g. OpenStack), which focused more on new future
> applications(stateless apps). I need high availability, fault-tolerance,
> resiliancy and so on, all in my infrastrructure level, not on the
> application itself. And now, what is the best matched one for me to
> select???
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:13 PM, CARVER, PAUL <pc2929 at att.com> wrote:
>
>> hossein zabolzadeh wrote:
>> >I want to fully virtualize my datacenter. I don't want cloud. I don't
>> want to deliver
>> >public cloud. I have several legacy appliacation that I want to run all
>> of them on
>> >virtualized environment. I want to leverage the virtualization
>> technology to improve
>> >my datacenter consolidation, ease of meintenace, ease of management with
>> >increase in capacity.
>>
>>
>> If you don’t want cloud and don’t need cloud then don’t look at
>> CloudStack or OpenStack. There’s no need to be buzzword compliant. Just use
>> ESXi (with or without vCenter), or use KVM or Xen directly. After you’ve
>> virtualized your infrastructure either one of two things will happen:
>>
>> 1) You’ll realize that you really did want cloud, but now you’ll
>> understand why and you won’t just be doing it for buzzword’s sake
>>
>> or
>>
>> 2) You’ll be perfectly happy because you were actually right that all you
>> wanted was to virtualize a few servers. You’re done and you didn’t make
>> yourself miserable by implementing something you really didn’t want or need
>>
>> Not everybody needs a cloud platform. Certainly not everybody needs to
>> build their own cloud platform internal to their company. If you’re IT
>> needs are big enough and rapidly changing enough to actually need cloud
>> then you wouldn’t be posting to an OpenStack mailing list that “I don’t
>> want cloud” unless of course you don’t actually know your IT needs well
>> enough. And if you don’t know your IT needs well enough to understand on a
>> technical basis why you need OpenStack (or CloudStack or vCloud or etc)
>> then you need to go back and figure out your own IT needs before proceeding
>> further.
>>
>
>
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