Open Stack

Any Idea???


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:16 AM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolzadeh at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> *My short list of requirement is:*
> - Legacy Stateful Application on my VMs
> - No time to change the application code base(to convert them as stateless
> apps which are work better on openstack)
> - Completely opensource solution(HA in openstack need "stratus allways on
> cloud" solution or something like that, which are not opensource)
> - High amount of code stability
> - Enterprise proven solution
> - Better siute for private cloud instead of public
> - High amount of HA, fault tolerance, resiliency in underlying layers
> *By the aim of these requirement description, what about the decision
> between OpenStack & CloudStack?*
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:29 PM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolzadeh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Paul for your responce.
>> But, My case was not a few server in small server room. I have been
>> talked about a huge datacenter with more than 1000 server, SAN storage
>> devices, complex physical networks and so on, with high amount of change in
>> IT needs.
>> Yes you right. Sorry for my miss-typping. My mean was "I don't want
>> *public* cloud". In other words "I don't want to deliver *public*
>> cloud". I want to use private cloud on my datacenter. But becasue of my
>> in-ability to change my legacy application codebase, the datacenter
>> virtualization is better matched to my requirements, instead of
>> infrastructure provisioning cloud solution(e.g. OpenStack), which focused
>> more on new future applications(stateless apps). I need high availability,
>> fault-tolerance, resiliancy and so on, all in my infrastrructure level, not
>> on the application itself. And now, what is the best matched one for me to
>> select???
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:13 PM, CARVER, PAUL <pc2929 at att.com> wrote:
>>
>>> hossein zabolzadeh wrote:
>>> >I want to fully virtualize my datacenter. I don't want cloud. I don't
>>> want to deliver
>>> >public cloud. I have several legacy appliacation that I want to run all
>>> of them on
>>> >virtualized environment. I want to leverage the virtualization
>>> technology to improve
>>> >my datacenter consolidation, ease of meintenace, ease of management with
>>> >increase in capacity.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you don’t want cloud and don’t need cloud then don’t look at
>>> CloudStack or OpenStack. There’s no need to be buzzword compliant. Just use
>>> ESXi (with or without vCenter), or use KVM or Xen directly. After you’ve
>>> virtualized your infrastructure either one of two things will happen:
>>>
>>> 1) You’ll realize that you really did want cloud, but now you’ll
>>> understand why and you won’t just be doing it for buzzword’s sake
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> 2) You’ll be perfectly happy because you were actually right that all
>>> you wanted was to virtualize a few servers. You’re done and you didn’t make
>>> yourself miserable by implementing something you really didn’t want or need
>>>
>>> Not everybody needs a cloud platform. Certainly not everybody needs to
>>> build their own cloud platform internal to their company. If you’re IT
>>> needs are big enough and rapidly changing enough to actually need cloud
>>> then you wouldn’t be posting to an OpenStack mailing list that “I don’t
>>> want cloud” unless of course you don’t actually know your IT needs well
>>> enough. And if you don’t know your IT needs well enough to understand on a
>>> technical basis why you need OpenStack (or CloudStack or vCloud or etc)
>>> then you need to go back and figure out your own IT needs before proceeding
>>> further.
>>>
>>
>>
>
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