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I don't think not being able of creating VMware volumes from images is a big limit, moreover it may be that was some misconfiguration on our side, or some limitation will be removed in next versions.

All the things you list in requirements should be achievable. Then about importing current appliances in openstack, I think you my need some trick to do it without registering them as images and booting them as VMs.

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> Il giorno 21 set 2015, alle ore 19:44, Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocassano at gmail.com> ha scritto:
> 
> We would like to provide cloud infrastracture  multi hypervosor with sdn, multi tenancy, orchestration and self provisioning.
> I think openstack with kvm is a good  start point but we have  hunderds applications on vmware.
> A good compromise could be kvm and vmware with openstack but I am not sure it is a good idea because vmware seems to me limited in this scenario.
> 
> Il giorno 21/set/2015 19:18, "Federico Michele Facca" <federico.facca at create-net.org> ha scritto:
>> there is no a proper answer to your question (expecially if you don't provide a bit of a context :) i.e. 
>> what are you trying to achieve? what are your constraints?)
>> 
>> In general, I doubt you can do many of the things you can do with OpenStack using vCenter, and probably also with vCloud... (and the other way around, there are things you can do with vCloud, you cannot do today with OpenStack) on the other hand, by pluging vCenter in OpenStack you can do many things that only vCenter can't achieve :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocassano at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Many thanks Federico...
>>> So the question is: why should I use openstack with vmware ?
>>> Il giorno 21/set/2015 18:34, "Federico Michele Facca" <federico.facca at create-net.org> ha scritto:
>>>> Hi Ignazio,
>>>> I am not the greatest expert in my team on the topic, so there my be some mistakes (anyone feel free to correct :)), read my reply inline
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Ignazio Cassano <ignaziocassano at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all, I' would like to know which openstack community edition components work with vmware.
>>>>> I know there is a nova driver for vmware.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> correct, basically it will act as a "proxy" toward vCenter
>>>>  
>>>>> I' like to know if glance, heat, ceilometer etc etc work with vmware.
>>>>> 
>>>> AFAIK Heat as no real dependency, so no issue. Ceilometer, we haven't tested, but any implementation may reflect the fact that OS services for VMWare are proxies (i.e. it will see whatever is on the other side like a huge compute or a huge cinder)
>>>> 
>>>> About glance you may have some limitations, since it supports so far (unless anything changed in Liberty) a single backend. actually we had issues in booting a vmware volume from an image (using swift as glance backend - it should work with no issue using the vmware storage, but then I guess you lose the multi hypervisor support).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> As far is neutron is concerned, in a scenario where there are kvm and vmware nodes, must I have an nsx multihypervisor solution ?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think you can use other drivers as well (actually we developed one for a customer). Or nova-network.
>>>>  
>>>>> Must I insall nsx componenents on kvm nodes (a modified ovs version  for kvm) ?
>>>>> 
>>>> we didn't go for NSX solution, but I guess so.
>>>>> On vmware must I install the vmware nsx or the multihypervisor version ?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> yes multihpervisor one... I know there were rumors about an opens source release, but I hadn't any update on that.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Federico
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Ignazio
>>>>> 
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