<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I don't think not being able of creating VMware volumes from images is a big limit, moreover it may be that was some misconfiguration on our side, or some limitation will be removed in next versions.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">All the things you list in requirements should be achievable. Then about importing current appliances in openstack, I think you my need some trick to do it without registering them as images and booting them as VMs.<br><br>iFede - Fede's mobile edition</div><div><br>Il giorno 21 set 2015, alle ore 19:44, Ignazio Cassano <<a href="mailto:ignaziocassano@gmail.com">ignaziocassano@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p>We would like to provide cloud infrastracture multi hypervosor with sdn, multi tenancy, orchestration and self provisioning.<br>
I think openstack with kvm is a good start point but we have hunderds applications on vmware.<br>
A good compromise could be kvm and vmware with openstack but I am not sure it is a good idea because vmware seems to me limited in this scenario.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 21/set/2015 19:18, "Federico Michele Facca" <<a href="mailto:federico.facca@create-net.org">federico.facca@create-net.org</a>> ha scritto:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">there is no a proper answer to your question (expecially if you don't provide a bit of a context :) i.e. <div><div>what are you trying to achieve? what are your constraints?)</div><div><br></div><div>In general, I doubt you can do many of the things you can do with OpenStack using vCenter, and probably also with vCloud... (and the other way around, there are things you can do with vCloud, you cannot do today with OpenStack) on the other hand, by pluging vCenter in OpenStack you can do many things that only vCenter can't achieve :)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Ignazio Cassano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ignaziocassano@gmail.com" target="_blank">ignaziocassano@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>Many thanks Federico...<br>
So the question is: why should I use openstack with vmware ?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 21/set/2015 18:34, "Federico Michele Facca" <<a href="mailto:federico.facca@create-net.org" target="_blank">federico.facca@create-net.org</a>> ha scritto:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Ignazio,<div>I am not the greatest expert in my team on the topic, so there my be some mistakes (anyone feel free to correct :)), read my reply inline</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Ignazio Cassano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ignaziocassano@gmail.com" target="_blank">ignaziocassano@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>Hi all, I' would like to know which openstack community edition components work with vmware.<br>
I know there is a nova driver for vmware.</p><br><p></p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>correct, basically it will act as a "proxy" toward vCenter</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>
I' like to know if glance, heat, ceilometer etc etc work with vmware.</p><br><p></p></blockquote><div>AFAIK Heat as no real dependency, so no issue. Ceilometer, we haven't tested, but any implementation may reflect the fact that OS services for VMWare are proxies (i.e. it will see whatever is on the other side like a huge compute or a huge cinder)</div><div><br></div><div>About glance you may have some limitations, since it supports so far (unless anything changed in Liberty) a single backend. actually we had issues in booting a vmware volume from an image (using swift as glance backend - it should work with no issue using the vmware storage, but then I guess you lose the multi hypervisor support).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>
As far is neutron is concerned, in a scenario where there are kvm and vmware nodes, must I have an nsx multihypervisor solution ?</p><br><p></p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think you can use other drivers as well (actually we developed one for a customer). Or nova-network.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>
Must I insall nsx componenents on kvm nodes (a modified ovs version for kvm) ?</p><br><p></p></blockquote><div>we didn't go for NSX solution, but I guess so.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>
On vmware must I install the vmware nsx or the multihypervisor version ?</p><br><p></p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yes multihpervisor one... I know there were rumors about an opens source release, but I hadn't any update on that.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Federico</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>
Regards<span><font color="#888888"><br>
Ignazio</font></span></p>
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