[Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

Anita Kuno anteaya at anteaya.info
Thu Jan 15 21:28:36 UTC 2015

On 01/16/2015 09:19 AM, Kris G. Lindgren wrote:
> Is the fact that neutron security groups don’t provide the same level of isolation as nova security groups on your guys radar?
> Specifically talking about:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1274034
> I am sure their are a few other thigns that nova is doing that neutron is currently not.
> ____________________________________________
> Kris Lindgren
> Senior Linux Systems Engineer
> GoDaddy, LLC.
Can I convince you to attend the weekly nova-net to neutron migration
meeting and ensure that it is?

Thanks Kris,
> From: matt <matt at nycresistor.com<mailto:matt at nycresistor.com>>
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 1:10 PM
> To: Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info<mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info>>
> Cc: Angus Lees <guslees at gmail.com<mailto:guslees at gmail.com>>, OpenStack Development Mailing List <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>, "openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org>" <openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration
> Will do.
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info<mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info>> wrote:
> On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
>> Hey Mike!
>> Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very interested
>> in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.
>> -Matt
> Hello Matt:
> Please start attending the weekly meetings:
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration
> follow the logs from it:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_net_to_neutron_migration/
> as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
> and the nova weekly meeting:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/
> After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
> either at one of the above meetings or do email me.
> Thank you Matt,
> Anita.
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still <mikal at stillhq.com<mailto:mikal at stillhq.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
>>> got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au<http://linux.conf.au> 2015 to talk about this. It
>>> wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
>>> same place at the same time.
>>> To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
>>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
>>> Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
>>> Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
>>> discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.
>>> I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
>>> thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
>>> reference as well.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Michael
>>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info<mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info>> wrote:
>>>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
>>>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
>>>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
>>>> you do.
>>>> Where we are:
>>>>     * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
>>>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
>>>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
>>>>     * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
>>>>     * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
>>>> responsibilities
>>>>     * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
>>>>     * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
>>>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
>>>> first draft or a champion
>>>> Where I would like to get to:
>>>>     * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
>>>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
>>>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
>>>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
>>>>     * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
>>>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
>>>>     * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
>>>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
>>>>     * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
>>>> meetings to communicate status and needs
>>>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
>>>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
>>>> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
>>>> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
>>>> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
>>>> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
>>>> which I am capable.
>>>> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
>>>> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
>>>> keep going and finish this.
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Anita.
>>>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
>>>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
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