[Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

Kris G. Lindgren klindgren at godaddy.com
Thu Jan 15 20:19:26 UTC 2015

Is the fact that neutron security groups don’t provide the same level of isolation as nova security groups on your guys radar?

Specifically talking about:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1274034

I am sure their are a few other thigns that nova is doing that neutron is currently not.

Kris Lindgren
Senior Linux Systems Engineer
GoDaddy, LLC.

From: matt <matt at nycresistor.com<mailto:matt at nycresistor.com>>
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 1:10 PM
To: Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info<mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info>>
Cc: Angus Lees <guslees at gmail.com<mailto:guslees at gmail.com>>, OpenStack Development Mailing List <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>, "openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org>" <openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org>>
Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

Will do.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info<mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info>> wrote:
On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
> Hey Mike!
> Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very interested
> in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.
> -Matt
Hello Matt:

Please start attending the weekly meetings:
follow the logs from it:
as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
and the nova weekly meeting:

After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
either at one of the above meetings or do email me.

Thank you Matt,

> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still <mikal at stillhq.com<mailto:mikal at stillhq.com>> wrote:
>> Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
>> got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au<http://linux.conf.au> 2015 to talk about this. It
>> wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
>> same place at the same time.
>> To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
>> Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
>> Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
>> discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.
>> I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
>> thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
>> reference as well.
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info<mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info>> wrote:
>>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
>>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
>>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
>>> you do.
>>> Where we are:
>>>     * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
>>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
>>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
>>>     * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
>>>     * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
>>> responsibilities
>>>     * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
>>>     * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
>>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
>>> first draft or a champion
>>> Where I would like to get to:
>>>     * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
>>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
>>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
>>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
>>>     * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
>>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
>>>     * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
>>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
>>>     * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
>>> meetings to communicate status and needs
>>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
>>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
>>> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
>>> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
>>> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
>>> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
>>> which I am capable.
>>> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
>>> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
>>> keep going and finish this.
>>> Thank you,
>>> Anita.
>>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
>>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
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