[Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

Kyle Mestery mestery at mestery.com
Thu Jan 15 21:38:54 UTC 2015


On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Kris G. Lindgren <klindgren at godaddy.com>
wrote:

>   Is the fact that neutron security groups don’t provide the same level
> of isolation as nova security groups on your guys radar?
>
>  Specifically talking about:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1274034
>
> That bug is actually tracked by a BP as well which is approved and marked
as Kilo-2 [1].



>  I am sure their are a few other thigns that nova is doing that neutron
> is currently not.
>

That may be true. The plan which was agreed to and executed on by the TC
during Juno is here [2]. If there are other features people want from
nova-network in neutron, I encourage them to file bugs or specs to track
them.

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/arp-spoof-patch-ebtables
[2]
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee/Neutron_Gap_Coverage

____________________________________________
>
> Kris Lindgren
> Senior Linux Systems Engineer
> GoDaddy, LLC.
>
>   From: matt <matt at nycresistor.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 1:10 PM
> To: Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info>
> Cc: Angus Lees <guslees at gmail.com>, OpenStack Development Mailing List <
> openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>, "
> openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org" <
> openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron
> migration
>
>   Will do.
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote:
>
>> On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
>> > Hey Mike!
>> >
>> > Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very
>> interested
>> > in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.
>> >
>> > -Matt
>> >
>> Hello Matt:
>>
>> Please start attending the weekly meetings:
>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration
>> follow the logs from it:
>> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_net_to_neutron_migration/
>> as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
>> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
>> and the nova weekly meeting:
>> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/
>>
>> After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
>> either at one of the above meetings or do email me.
>>
>> Thank you Matt,
>> Anita.
>>
>> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still <mikal at stillhq.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
>> >> got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
>> >> wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
>> >> same place at the same time.
>> >>
>> >> To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
>> >> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
>> >> Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
>> >> Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
>> >> discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.
>> >>
>> >> I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
>> >> thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
>> >> reference as well.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Michael
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
>> and
>> >>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
>> can
>> >>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
>> told
>> >>> you do.
>> >>>
>> >>> Where we are:
>> >>>     * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
>> >>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
>> >>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
>> >>>     * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
>> >>>     * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
>> >>> responsibilities
>> >>>     * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
>> >>>     * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
>> >>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
>> >>> first draft or a champion
>> >>>
>> >>> Where I would like to get to:
>> >>>     * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
>> help
>> >>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
>> >>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
>> >>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
>> >>>     * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
>> >>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
>> >>>     * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
>> find
>> >>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
>> >>>     * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
>> >>> meetings to communicate status and needs
>> >>>
>> >>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
>> work
>> >>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this
>> work,
>> >>> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you
>> would
>> >>> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
>> >>> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
>> >>> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods
>> of
>> >>> which I am capable.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
>> >>> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work.
>> Let's
>> >>> keep going and finish this.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you,
>> >>> Anita.
>> >>>
>> >>> [0]
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
>> >>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
>> >>>
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