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Hi,

some update here:

* Last week I've tried the new tooling (gerrit ACLs) and deleted 
cinder's ocata-eol tagged stable/ocata branch and it worked as it should 
so now I'll continue to *delete* all other ocata-eol tagged branches.

* The next phase will be the deletion of *pike-eol* tagged branches. So 
this is a *warning* again for downstream and upstream CI maintainers.

Thanks,

Előd


On 2021. 04. 20. 21:31, Előd Illés wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry, this will be long :) as there are 3 topics around old stable
> branches and 'End of Life'.
>
> 1. Deletion of ocata-eol tagged branches
>
> With the introduction of Extended Maintenance process [1][2] some cycles
> ago, the 'End of Life' (EOL) process also changed:
> * branches were no longer EOL tagged and "mass-deleted" at the end of
>   maintenance phase
> * EOL'ing became a project decision
> * if a project decides to cease maintenance of a branch that is in
>   Extended Maintenance, then they can tag their branch with $series-eol
>
> However, the EOL-tagging process was not automated or redefined
> process-wise, so that meant the branches that were tagged as EOL were
> not deleted. Now (after some changing in tooling) Release Management
> team finally will start to delete EOL-tagged branches.
>
> In this mail I'm sending a *WARNING* to consumers of old stable
> branches, especially *ocata*, as we will start deleting the
> *ocata-eol* tagged branches in a *week*. (And also newer *-eol branches
> later on)
>
>
> 2. Ocata branch
>
> Beyond the 1st topic we must clarify the future of Ocata stable branch
> in general: tempest jobs became broken about ~ a year ago. That means
> that projects had two ways forward:
>
> a. drop tempest testing to unblock gate
> b. simply don't support ocata branch anymore
>
> As far as I see the latter one happened and stable/ocata became
> unmaintained probably for every projects.
>
> So my questions are regarding this:
> * Is any project still using/maintaining their stable/ocata branch?
> * If not: can Release Team initiate a mass-EOL-tagging of stable/ocata?
>
>
> 3. The 'next' old stable branches
>
> Some projects still support their Pike, Queens and Rocky branches.
> These branches use Xenial and py2.7 and both are out of support. This
> results broken gates time to time. Especially nowadays. These issues
> suggest that these branches are closer and closer to being unmaintained.
> So I call the attention of interested parties, who are for example
> still consuming these stable branches and using them downstream to put
> effort on maintaining the branches and their CI/gates.
>
> It is a good practice for stable maintainers to check if there are
> failures in their projects' periodic-stable jobs [3], as those are
> good indicators of the health of their stable branches. And if there
> are, then try to fix it as soon as possible.
>
>
> [1] 
> https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html
> [2] 
> https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#maintenance-phases
> [3] 
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-stable-maint/2021-April/date.html
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Előd
>
>
>