[openstack-dev] [designate] Status of the project

Jay Pipes jaypipes at gmail.com
Fri Feb 10 17:50:56 UTC 2017

On 02/10/2017 12:21 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote:
> Hayes, Graham wrote:
>> The HTML version of this is here:
>> http://graham.hayes.ie/posts/openstack-designate-where-we-are/
>> I have been asked a few times recently "What is the state of the
>> Designate
>> project?", "How is Designate getting on?", and by people who know what is
>> happening "What are you going to do about Designate?".
>> Needless to say, all of this is depressing to me, and the people that
>> I have
>> worked with for the last number of years to make Designate a truly
>> useful,
>> feature rich project.
>> *TL;DR;* for this - Designate is not in a sustainable place.
>> To start out - Designate has always been a small project. DNS does not
>> have
>> massive *cool* appeal - its not shiny, pretty, or something you see on
>> the
>> front page of HackerNews (unless it breaks - then oh boy do people
>> become DNS
>> experts).
> Thanks for posting this, I know it was not easy to write...
> Knowing where this is at and the issues. It makes me wonder if it is
> worthwhile to start thinking about how we can start to look at 'outside
> the openstack' projects for DNS. I believe there is a few that are
> similar enough to designate (though I don't know well enough) for
> example things like SkyDNS (or others which I believe there are a few).
> Perhaps we need to start thinking outside the openstack 'box' in regards
> to NIH syndrome and accept the fact that we as a community may not be
> able to recreate the world successfully in all cases (the same could be
> said about things like k8s and others).
> If we got out of the mindset of openstack as a thing must have tightly
> integrated components (over all else) and started thinking about how we
> can be much more loosely coupled (and even say integrating non-python,
> non-openstack projects) would that be beneficial (I think it would)?

This is already basically what Designate *is today*.


Just because something is written in Golang and uses etcd for storage 
doesn't make it "better" or not NIH.

For the record, the equivalent to Designate in k8s land is Kube2Sky, the 
real difference being that Designate has a whole lot more options when 
it comes to the DNS drivers and Designate integrates with OpenStack 
services like Keystone.

Also, there's more to cloud DNS services than service discovery, which 
is what SkyDNS was written for.


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