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Excerpts from Hayes, Graham's message of 2016-01-28 19:02:57 +0000:
> On 28/01/2016 18:44, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > Graham,
> >
> > Quite unfair characterization of Oslo being -2 heavy. Please compare
> > stats before making such an assertion:
> 
> OK - that was probably my frustration boiling over at the time. I should
> not have made that generalization. I had been involved in 3 patches to
> olso repos in the last week, and 2 got -2'd, and that came out unfairly
> in this message.

As Dims pointed out, the ratio of -2s on your recent patches is an
aberration. It just happens that you've picked some tricky things
to work on, and those things need more communication than they might
in other projects because of the nature of Oslo. Please don't
interpret them as shutting down discussion.

> 
> The initial -2s where not as annoying as the stickyness of them. When
> the issues that led to the -2's were fixed, they were not moved to -1.
> 
> I see -2's as vetos - if I am mistaken please tell me, but that is how
> most of the openstack projectsm and other projects using gerrit seem
> to have treated them.

Veto has a lot of connotations. In my case, the -2 is an indication
that I think the requested change is a bad idea that needs more
justification.  I hadn't seen some of the recent comments on that
patch because I've been working on something else today. I've
suggested moving the conversation to the mailing list. After that
discussion, we'll know the path forward.

I believe Dan is at the Nova mid-cycle this week, so it's likely
his -2 will be pretty sticky for now, too, since I expect he's
otherwise occupied as well.

Doug

> 
> > http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/oslo-reviewers-365.txt
> > http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/nova-reviewers-365.txt
> > http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/neutron-reviewers-365.txt
> >
> > On the one single specific review you had a -2, you should be talking
> > to the reviewer on IRC or bring it to the next Oslo meeting.
> 
> Did that. And on the review itself.
> 
> > Thanks,
> > Dims
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Joshua Harlow <harlowja at fastmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hayes, Graham wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Also, olso seem to be very-2  heavy. This means that alternative views
> >>> on the review are very unlikely. My question is what is the difference
> >>> between a-1  and a-2  for oslo?
> >>
> >>
> >> If this is the case I am sorry about it, and I'd also like to think that we
> >> (as the oslo team) need not do this (or think about it more before we do
> >> it), because it usually isn't really needed (a -1 suffices IMHO for most
> >> things, especially things that are being actively discussed).
> >>
> >> But I'm also in the camp that thinks the whole -1 or -2 is sorta dumb and
> >> IMHO just leaving comments and talking to people on IRC to work through
> >> issues/discussion/code is better...
> >>
> >> But then that requires people<->people interaction and I guess not everyone
> >> likes to do that(?)
> >>
> >> In general I hope it's not all of oslo u are grouping here because, if its
> >> just a few cases, hopefully we can work with the person that is -2ing stuff
> >> to not do it willy nilly...
> >>
> >> My 2 cents,
> >>
> >> -Josh
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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