[openstack-dev] [all] [ptl] Troubleshooting cross-project communications

Anne Gentle annegentle at justwriteclick.com
Wed Sep 16 18:26:18 UTC 2015


On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Christopher Aedo <doc at aedo.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Anne Gentle
> <annegentle at justwriteclick.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > What can we do to make the cross-project meeting more helpful and useful
> for
> > cross-project communications? I started with a proposal to move it to a
> > different time, which morphed into an idea to alternate times. But,
> knowing
> > that we need to layer communications I wonder if we should troubleshoot
> > cross-project communications further? These are the current ways
> > cross-project communications happen:
> >
> > 1. The weekly meeting in IRC
> > 2. The cross-project specs and reviewing those
> > 3. Direct connections between team members
> > 4. Cross-project talks at the Summits
>
> 5. This mailing list
>
> >
> > What are some of the problems with each layer?
> >
> > 1. weekly meeting: time zones, global reach, size of cross-project
> concerns
> > due to multiple projects being affected, another meeting for PTLs to
> attend
> > and pay attention to
> > 2. specs: don't seem to get much attention unless they're brought up at
> > weekly meeting, finding owners for the work needing to be done in a spec
> is
> > difficult since each project team has its own priorities
> > 3. direct communications: decisions from these comms are difficult to
> then
> > communicate more widely, it's difficult to get time with busy PTLs
> > 4. Summits: only happens twice a year, decisions made then need to be
> widely
> > communicated
>
> 5. There's tremendous volume on the mailing list, and it can be very
> difficult to stay on top of all that traffic.
>
> >
> > I'm sure there are more details and problems I'm missing -- feel free to
> > fill in as needed.
> >
> > Lastly, what suggestions do you have for solving problems with any of
> these
> > layers?
>
> Unless I missed it, I'm really not sure why the mailing list didn't
> make the list here?  My take at least is that we should be
> coordinating with each other through the mailing list when real-time
> isn't possible (due time zone issues, etc.)  At the very least, it
> keeps people from holding on to information or issues until the next
> weekly meeting, or for a few months until the next mid-cycle or
> summit.
>
>
My apologies, that's called "blindness to the current medium" or some such.
:) Yes, absolutely we use this mailing list a lot for communication.


> I personally would like to see more coordination happening on the ML,
> and would be curious to hear opinions on how that can be improved.
> Maybe a tag on the subject line to draw attention in this case makes
> this a little easier, since we are by nature talking about issues that
> span all projects?  [cross-project] rather than [all]?
>
>
 I agree, another topic sounds like a good starting point.

Thanks,
Anne


> -Christopher
>
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Anne Gentle
Rackspace
Principal Engineer
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