[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Proposal to Delay Docker Removal From Fuel Master Node

Oleg Gelbukh ogelbukh at mirantis.com
Thu Dec 17 09:31:01 UTC 2015


Evgeniy,

True, and I fully support merging this particular change as soon as
possible, i.e. the moment the 'master' is open for 9.0 development.

-Oleg

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Evgeniy L <eli at mirantis.com> wrote:

> Hi Oleg,
>
> With the same degree of confidence we can say that anything we have in the
> beginning of
> the release cycle is not urgent enough. We pushed early branching
> specifically for
> such big changes as Docker removal/Changing repos structures and merging
> invasive patches
> for new release features.
>
> Vladimir Kuklin,
>
> I'm not sure what do you mean by "fixing 2 different environments"? With
> environment without
> containers it will simplify debugging process.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Oleg Gelbukh <ogelbukh at mirantis.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Although I agree that it should be done, the removal of Docker doesn't
>> seem an urgent feature to me. It is not blocking anything besides moving to
>> full package-based deployment of Fuel, as far as I understand. So it could
>> be easily delayed for one milestone, especially if it is already almost
>> done and submitted for review, so it could be merged fast before any other
>> significant changes land in 'master' after it is open.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Oleg Gelbukh
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Vladimir Kozhukalov <
>> vkozhukalov at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Vladimir,
>>>
>>> I have other activities planned for the time immediately after SCF
>>> (separating UI from fuel-web, maybe it is even more invasive :-)) and it is
>>> not a big deal to postpone this feature or another. I am against the
>>> approach itself of postponing something because it is too invasive. If we
>>> create stable branch master becomes open. That was our primary intention to
>>> open master earlier than later when we decided to move stable branch
>>> creation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Vladimir Kuklin <vkuklin at mirantis.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vladimir
>>>>
>>>> I am pretty much for removing docker, but I do not think that we should
>>>> startle our developers/QA folks with additional efforts on fixing 2
>>>> different environments. Let's just think from the point of development
>>>> velocity here and at delay such changes for at least after NY. Because if
>>>> we do it immediately after SCF there will be a whole bunch of holidays and
>>>> Russian holidays are Jan 1st-10th and you (who is the SME for docker
>>>> removal) will be offline. Do you really want to fix things instead of
>>>> enjoying holidays?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Evgeniy L <eli at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 to Vladimir Kozhukalov,
>>>>>
>>>>> Entire point of moving branches creation to SCF was to perform such
>>>>> changes as
>>>>> early as possible in the release, I see no reasons to wait for HCF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Vladimir Kozhukalov <
>>>>> vkozhukalov at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We already discussed this and we have made a decision to move stable
>>>>>> branch creation from HCF to SCF. There were reasons for this. We agreed
>>>>>> that once stable branch is created, master becomes open for new features.
>>>>>> Let's avoid discussing this again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Bulat Gaifullin <
>>>>>> bgaifullin at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Bulat Gaifullin
>>>>>>> Mirantis Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 Dec 2015, at 22:19, Andrew Maksimov <amaksimov at mirantis.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Andrey Maximov
>>>>>>> Fuel Project Manager
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Vladimir Kuklin <
>>>>>>> vkuklin at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Folks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This email is a proposal to push Docker containers removal from the
>>>>>>>> master node to the date beyond 8.0 HCF.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is why I propose to do so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Removal of Docker is a rather invasive change and may introduce a
>>>>>>>> lot of regressions. It is well may affect how bugs are fixed - we might
>>>>>>>> have 2 ways of fixing them, while during SCF of 8.0 this may affect
>>>>>>>> velocity of bug fixing as you need to fix bugs in master prior to fixing
>>>>>>>> them in stable branches. This actually may significantly increase our
>>>>>>>> bugfixing pace and put 8.0 GA release on risk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Yours Faithfully,
>>>>>>>> Vladimir Kuklin,
>>>>>>>> Fuel Library Tech Lead,
>>>>>>>> Mirantis, Inc.
>>>>>>>> +7 (495) 640-49-04
>>>>>>>> +7 (926) 702-39-68
>>>>>>>> Skype kuklinvv
>>>>>>>> 35bk3, Vorontsovskaya Str.
>>>>>>>> Moscow, Russia,
>>>>>>>> www.mirantis.com <http://www.mirantis.ru/>
>>>>>>>> www.mirantis.ru
>>>>>>>> vkuklin at mirantis.com
>>>>>>>>
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>>>> Yours Faithfully,
>>>> Vladimir Kuklin,
>>>> Fuel Library Tech Lead,
>>>> Mirantis, Inc.
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>>>> +7 (926) 702-39-68
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