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Kyle,

I do understand it. My suggestions were related to timing and not related to the objectives of this meet-up, I do agree totally with you that we should get together to make a big push on the code and BPs and not to discuss and  make more decisions.
For the next coding sprint I will plan it better with my sponsor company, in the meantime let me apologize with you and the Neutron team because I will not be able to attend it in person but I will be in IRC and if available hangouts.

Cheers,

Edgar

From: Kyle Mestery <mestery at mestery.com<mailto:mestery at mestery.com>>
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 8:22 AM
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Liberty mid-cycle coding sprint

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Edgar Magana <edgar.magana at workday.com<mailto:edgar.magana at workday.com>> wrote:
Kyle,

Thank you for your answers and also for organizing this coding sprint.
I would like to rephrase my question as follows.
If you are elected as Neutron PTL for the Liberty Cycle, would you consider to have either of the following options for the M cycle?:

  1.  Move the next coding sprint at least one month after the “M” summit
  2.  Having both a sprint coding and a formal mid-cycle meet-up

I know how hard is to organize these sessions and I by no means wanted to change people plans for attending the one in June 2015. However, raising my concerns and suggestions early in the process seems to be a good approach.

The Liberty coding spring is actually more than a month after the Liberty Summit, so the M coding spring would be the same. I don't think having a coding spring and a mid-cycle makes sense. In fact, I am against mid-cycles where the focus is not on code. Personally, we need to continue evolving the projects in OpenStack so decisions do not need to be made in person. Mid-cycles perpetuate the notion you have to go there and be present so you can be a part of the decision making process. Coding sprints are focused on actually writing code together. Thus, I won't support mid-cycles where decisions are expected to be made, but will continue to support coding sprints.

Hope that makes sense.

Thanks,
Kyle

Kind Regards,

Edgar

From: Kyle Mestery <mestery at mestery.com<mailto:mestery at mestery.com>>
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 6:09 AM

To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Liberty mid-cycle coding sprint

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Edgar Magana <edgar.magana at workday.com<mailto:edgar.magana at workday.com>> wrote:
Kyle and Neutron Team,

Having the mid-cyle just one month after the Liberty summit does not really fit into the definition of “mid-cycle”. It feels like we are just getting up to speed on Liberty BPs when we need to get ready for three days of sprint coding.
Would you consider to move this at least one month after?
I really want to go but it feels to soon to request permission to my management team.

Thanks for your concerns Edgar. I guess you're right, and I will stop calling this a mid-cycle, and instead just refer to it as a the Neutron Liberty Coding Sprint. It's actually worked out really well to have it close to the first milestone, we have a lot of things we can do very early in the cycle, getting together and pushing towards the first milestone with some of them will work well. Like I indicated to Russell, we'll do our best to facilitate remote attendees over IRC and maybe Hangouts while we're there.

Thanks!
Kyle

Thanks,

Edgar

From: Kyle Mestery <mestery at mestery.com<mailto:mestery at mestery.com>>
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 6:39 AM
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Liberty mid-cycle coding sprint

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Russell Bryant <rbryant at redhat.com<mailto:rbryant at redhat.com>> wrote:
On 04/07/2015 12:33 AM, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2015 at 03:00:17PM -0500, Kyle Mestery wrote:
>> I know we're not even at the Liberty Design Summit in Vancouver yet, but I
>> wanted to take this time to announce the Neutron mid-cycle coding sprint
>> for Liberty. HP has been gracious enough to offer to host at it's Fort
>> Collins, CO offices. The dates are set for June 24-26, this is
>> Wednesday-Friday. I've got additional information on the etherpad [1].
>>
>> We'll set the specific agenda in the coming weeks, but the idea is to focus
>> on things like the pending neutron-lib work [2] while there, similar to
>> what we did with the advanced services split in Utah last year. My
>> experience running the past two mid-cycles has been that having these
>> earlier in the cycle has been helpful for landing a lot of work near the
>> first milestone of a release. I expect this to be the same for Liberty with
>> the sprint in Fort Collins.
>>
>> Please note attendance is not required at all. We will do our best to
>> facilitate virtual collaboration for those who cannot travel to the event.
>> I wanted to get this out there for folks who have to book travel in advance.
>
> I don't know anything about these events.  Naively: would OVN
> development (some of which is in Neutron, much of which is not) be an
> appropriate use of time at the event?

Yes, I think putting OVN hacking on the agenda makes a lot of sense! I'll add it to the etherpad now.

I suspect so.  FWIW, I'm not sure I'll be going, though.  The dates
aren't good for me.

Bummer! But, as I said, we'll try our best to include remote people into the coding sprint, so hopefully you can participate from afar. :)

--
Russell Bryant

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