[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

Joe Gordon joe.gordon0 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 18 17:15:19 UTC 2014


On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Devananda van der Veen <
devananda.vdv at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Flavio Percoco <flavio at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 09/18/2014 04:24 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
> >> Great job highlighting what our friends over at Amazon are doing.
> >>
> >> It's clear from these snippets, and a few other pieces of documentation
> >> for SQS I've read, that the Amazon team approached SQS from a _massive_
> >> scaling perspective. I think what may be forcing a lot of this
> frustration
> >> with Zaqar is that it was designed with a much smaller scale in mind.
> >>
> >> I think as long as that is the case, the design will remain in question.
> >> I'd be comfortable saying that the use cases I've been thinking about
> >> are entirely fine with the limitations SQS has.
> >
> > I think these are pretty strong comments with not enough arguments to
> > defend them.
> >
>
> Please see my prior email. I agree with Clint's assertions here.
>
> > Saying that Zaqar was designed with a smaller scale in mid without
> > actually saying why you think so is not fair besides not being true. So
> > please, do share why you think Zaqar was not designed for big scales and
> > provide comments that will help the project to grow and improve.
> >
> > - Is it because the storage technologies that have been chosen?
> > - Is it because of the API?
> > - Is it because of the programing language/framework ?
>
> It is not because of the storage technology or because of the
> programming language.
>
> > So far, we've just discussed the API semantics and not zaqar's
> > scalability, which makes your comments even more surprising.
>
> - guaranteed message order
> - not distributing work across a configurable number of back ends
>
> These are scale-limiting design choices which are reflected in the
> API's characteristics.
>

I agree with Clint and Devananda


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