[openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][Technical Committee] nova-network -> Neutron. Throwing a wrench in the Neutron gap analysis

Tom Fifield tom at openstack.org
Wed Aug 6 04:57:39 UTC 2014


On 06/08/14 12:40, Jay Pipes wrote:
> On 08/05/2014 11:25 PM, Tom Fifield wrote:
>> On 06/08/14 03:54, Jay Pipes wrote:
>>> On 08/05/2014 03:23 PM, Collins, Sean wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 12:50:45PM EDT, Monty Taylor wrote:
>>>>> However, I think the cost to providing that path far outweighs
>>>>> the benefit in the face of other things on our plate.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps those large operators that are hoping for a
>>>> Nova-Network->Neutron zero-downtime live migration, could dedicate
>>>> resources to this requirement? It is my direct experience that features
>>>> that are important to a large organization will require resources
>>>> from that very organization to be completed.
>>>
>>> Indeed, that's partly why I called out Metacloud in the original post,
>>> as they were brought up as a deployer with this potential need. Please,
>>> if there are any other shops that:
>>>
>>> * Currently deploy nova-network
>>> * Need to move to Neutron
>>> * Their tenants cannot tolerate any downtime due to a cold migration
>>>
>>> Please do comment on this thread and speak up.
>>
>> Just to chip in for the dozens of users I have personally spoken to that
>> do have the requirement for nova-network to neutron migration, and would
>> be adversely affected if it was not implemented prior to deprecating
>> nova-network: raising this concept only on a development mailing list is
>> a bad idea :)
>>
>> If anyone is serious about not providing a proper migration path for
>> these users that need it, there is a need to be yelling this for
>> probably a few of summits in a row and every OpenStack event we have in
>> between, as well as the full gamut of periodic surveys, blogs, twitters,
>> weibos, linkedins, facebooks etc,
>
> Well, yes, I agree that other methods of gathering that information
> would indeed be good. I'll work on that.
>
> Note, however, that nobody is suggesting not having a migration path.
> I'm just suggesting relaxing the requirement that the migration from
> nova-network to neutron be without any downtime of instances.

These users do not consider that a migration path, so actually that is 
what is being suggested.


Regards,


Tom




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