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On 08/05/2014 11:25 PM, Tom Fifield wrote:
> On 06/08/14 03:54, Jay Pipes wrote:
>> On 08/05/2014 03:23 PM, Collins, Sean wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 12:50:45PM EDT, Monty Taylor wrote:
>>>> However, I think the cost to providing that path far outweighs
>>>> the benefit in the face of other things on our plate.
>>>
>>> Perhaps those large operators that are hoping for a
>>> Nova-Network->Neutron zero-downtime live migration, could dedicate
>>> resources to this requirement? It is my direct experience that features
>>> that are important to a large organization will require resources
>>> from that very organization to be completed.
>>
>> Indeed, that's partly why I called out Metacloud in the original post,
>> as they were brought up as a deployer with this potential need. Please,
>> if there are any other shops that:
>>
>> * Currently deploy nova-network
>> * Need to move to Neutron
>> * Their tenants cannot tolerate any downtime due to a cold migration
>>
>> Please do comment on this thread and speak up.
>
> Just to chip in for the dozens of users I have personally spoken to that
> do have the requirement for nova-network to neutron migration, and would
> be adversely affected if it was not implemented prior to deprecating
> nova-network: raising this concept only on a development mailing list is
> a bad idea :)
>
> If anyone is serious about not providing a proper migration path for
> these users that need it, there is a need to be yelling this for
> probably a few of summits in a row and every OpenStack event we have in
> between, as well as the full gamut of periodic surveys, blogs, twitters,
> weibos, linkedins, facebooks etc,

Well, yes, I agree that other methods of gathering that information 
would indeed be good. I'll work on that.

Note, however, that nobody is suggesting not having a migration path. 
I'm just suggesting relaxing the requirement that the migration from 
nova-network to neutron be without any downtime of instances.

Best,
-jay