[legal-discuss] CCLA not available anywhere except the non-printable/non-downloadable esign app?

Luis Villa lvilla at wikimedia.org
Sun Sep 7 23:22:28 UTC 2014


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org>
wrote:

> On 09/05/2014 04:27 PM, Luis Villa wrote:
> > Here's my reasoning:
> > - CCLAs are mostly signed by corporate lawyers, like me.
> > - Corporate lawyers, like me, like to print out and examine documents
> > before signing them. Or at least ook at them in a window that can be
> > properly resized/zoomed (unlike the awful, user-unfriendly Adobe widget.)
> > - Careful corporate lawyers *particularly* like to print out and examine
> > documents that are derived from other documents (ahem, Apache CLA), so
> > that they can compare them carefully to the original/source document.
>
> Totally understood, in fact these requests are not uncommon.
>
> My reasoning is that I prefer to engage with corporate lawyers
> immediately before they go off on their own. Since we receive few
> requests, I prefer to know who is interested in signing it and help them
> out, with the CCLA and all the other complex things related to OpenStack.
>

Fair - I'm obviously better positioned than most to make that assessment.
If that is your goal, though, I think you should make that explicit in the
documentation: instead of pointing at the CCLA and then making the CCLA
painful/irritating to sign (which makes you look, frankly, amateur), you
should say bluntly "if this is your corporation's first time contributing,
you should put your corporate lawyers or product managers in touch with
corporate at openstack.org, who can help explain the process, point them at
appropriate documentation (including this CCLA[link]) ..." etc.

Thanks!

(Hope this doesn't come across as super-critical, just trying to make you
more user-friendly to an unusual but important class of user :)

Luis

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