Hello Everyone!
Congratulations on a great virtual PTG last week :)
The OpenInfra Foundation is hosting the OpenInfra Summit in Vancouver [1], June 13 -15, 2023.
We are trying to determine the level of interest among contributors to OpenInfra projects on attending a co-located PTG in Vancouver. *The exact format and dates are still being determined.* At this time, we are evaluating the level of interest from an attendee and employer perspective. Please complete the following poll so we can measure the level of interest and plan accordingly. Future updates will be distributed to the project mailing lists as well as previous PTG attendees.
Poll: https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023
As a reminder, we are also gathering feedback for the virtual PTG here: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback
-Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo)
---- On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:32:46 -0700 Kendall Nelson wrote ---
Hello Everyone! Congratulations on a great virtual PTG last week :)
The OpenInfra Foundation is hosting the OpenInfra Summit in Vancouver [1], June 13 -15, 2023. We are trying to determine the level of interest among contributors to OpenInfra projects on attending a co-located PTG in Vancouver. The exact format and dates are still being determined. At this time, we are evaluating the level of interest from an attendee and employer perspective. Please complete the following poll so we can measure the level of interest and plan accordingly. Future updates will be distributed to the project mailing lists as well as previous PTG attendees.
Thanks, Kendall for collecting the feedback and survey. One question to understand the future PTGs schedule.
As PTGs are aligned with the OpenStack new development cycle timing, they were very helpful to plan the new cycle features/work well at the start of the cycle. But seeing the summit co-located PTG timing which is June, I am curious to know if there will be a PTG for the 2023.2 (B) cycle in April (with 2023.1 Antelope releasing at the March end) also? Or we are going to have only one in June which will be co-located in Vancouver Summit (once it is final based on survey results).
Definitely, having a co-located PTGs in Summit is a very good idea, saving travel, and being much more productive also but it's just timing from OpenStack release perspective making it a little bit difficult.
-gmann
Poll: https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023
As a reminder, we are also gathering feedback for the virtual PTG here: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback
-Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) [1] https://openinfra.dev/summit/
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 1:52 PM Ghanshyam Mann gmann@ghanshyammann.com wrote:
---- On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:32:46 -0700 Kendall Nelson wrote ---
Hello Everyone! Congratulations on a great virtual PTG last week :)
The OpenInfra Foundation is hosting the OpenInfra Summit in Vancouver
[1], June 13 -15, 2023.
We are trying to determine the level of interest among contributors to
OpenInfra projects on attending a co-located PTG in Vancouver. The exact format and dates are still being determined. At this time, we are evaluating the level of interest from an attendee and employer perspective. Please complete the following poll so we can measure the level of interest and plan accordingly. Future updates will be distributed to the project mailing lists as well as previous PTG attendees.
Thanks, Kendall for collecting the feedback and survey. One question to understand the future PTGs schedule.
As PTGs are aligned with the OpenStack new development cycle timing, they were very helpful to plan the new cycle features/work well at the start of the cycle. But seeing the summit co-located PTG timing which is June, I am curious to know if there will be a PTG for the 2023.2 (B) cycle in April (with 2023.1 Antelope releasing at the March end) also? Or we are going to have only one in June which will be co-located in Vancouver Summit (once it is final based on survey results).
We would still do the usual virtual PTG on the ''normal" timeline. This potential add on to Vancouver would be in addition to the virtual PTG.
Definitely, having a co-located PTGs in Summit is a very good idea, saving travel, and being much more productive also but it's just timing from OpenStack release perspective making it a little bit difficult.
-gmann
Poll:
https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023
As a reminder, we are also gathering feedback for the virtual PTG here:
https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback
-Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) [1] https://openinfra.dev/summit/
On Wed, 2022-10-26 at 11:13 -0500, Kendall Nelson wrote:
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 1:52 PM Ghanshyam Mann gmann@ghanshyammann.com wrote:
---- On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:32:46 -0700 Kendall Nelson wrote ---
Hello Everyone! Congratulations on a great virtual PTG last week :)
The OpenInfra Foundation is hosting the OpenInfra Summit in Vancouver
[1], June 13 -15, 2023.
We are trying to determine the level of interest among contributors to
OpenInfra projects on attending a co-located PTG in Vancouver. The exact format and dates are still being determined. At this time, we are evaluating the level of interest from an attendee and employer perspective. Please complete the following poll so we can measure the level of interest and plan accordingly. Future updates will be distributed to the project mailing lists as well as previous PTG attendees.
Thanks, Kendall for collecting the feedback and survey. One question to understand the future PTGs schedule.
As PTGs are aligned with the OpenStack new development cycle timing, they were very helpful to plan the new cycle features/work well at the start of the cycle. But seeing the summit co-located PTG timing which is June, I am curious to know if there will be a PTG for the 2023.2 (B) cycle in April (with 2023.1 Antelope releasing at the March end) also? Or we are going to have only one in June which will be co-located in Vancouver Summit (once it is final based on survey results).
We would still do the usual virtual PTG on the ''normal" timeline. This potential add on to Vancouver would be in addition to the virtual PTG.
so replacing the fourm?
Definitely, having a co-located PTGs in Summit is a very good idea, saving travel, and being much more productive also but it's just timing from OpenStack release perspective making it a little bit difficult.
-gmann
Poll:
https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023
As a reminder, we are also gathering feedback for the virtual PTG here:
https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback
-Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) [1] https://openinfra.dev/summit/
No that wasn't the plan. I think the Forum will also still happen as per usual.
-Kendall
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 11:29 AM Sean Mooney smooney@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2022-10-26 at 11:13 -0500, Kendall Nelson wrote:
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 1:52 PM Ghanshyam Mann gmann@ghanshyammann.com wrote:
---- On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:32:46 -0700 Kendall Nelson wrote ---
Hello Everyone! Congratulations on a great virtual PTG last week :)
The OpenInfra Foundation is hosting the OpenInfra Summit in
Vancouver
[1], June 13 -15, 2023.
We are trying to determine the level of interest among contributors
to
OpenInfra projects on attending a co-located PTG in Vancouver. The
exact
format and dates are still being determined. At this time, we are evaluating the level of interest from an attendee and employer
perspective.
Please complete the following poll so we can measure the level of
interest
and plan accordingly. Future updates will be distributed to the project mailing lists as well as previous PTG attendees.
Thanks, Kendall for collecting the feedback and survey. One question to understand the future PTGs schedule.
As PTGs are aligned with the OpenStack new development cycle timing,
they
were very helpful to plan the new cycle features/work well at the start of the cycle. But seeing the summit co-located PTG timing which is June, I am curious to know if there will be a PTG for the 2023.2 (B) cycle in April (with 2023.1 Antelope releasing at the March end) also? Or we are going to have only one in June which will be co-located in Vancouver Summit (once it is final based on survey results).
We would still do the usual virtual PTG on the ''normal" timeline. This potential add on to Vancouver would be in addition to the virtual PTG.
so replacing the fourm?
Definitely, having a co-located PTGs in Summit is a very good idea,
saving
travel, and being much more productive also but it's just timing from OpenStack release perspective making it a
little
bit difficult.
-gmann
Poll:
https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023
As a reminder, we are also gathering feedback for the virtual PTG
here:
https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback
-Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) [1] https://openinfra.dev/summit/
On Wed Oct 26 2022 11:24:37 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time), Kendall Nelson kennelson11@gmail.com wrote:
No that wasn't the plan. I think the Forum will also still happen as per usual.
TBH, I wouldn't mind it (and I think I would actually prefer it) if we went back to the OG model of having the summit and the design summit at the same time. I was never into the split off into the PTG but wanted to be open minded. I think having the user-oriented energy of the summit combined with the ability to participate on the dev side at the same event was a good thing. I might be alone in this feeling though.
That said, I think gmann highlighted the challenge with this would be how we really need to have two events per year to collaborate on each upcoming release. I wonder if we could do one co-located event with the summit and then a virtual PTG for the other cycle? I dunno if the virtual PTG is too resource intensive. I'm generally not a fan of virtual events but I have quite liked the virtual PTG. I think it has been running really smoothly and very productive.
Just my 2c.
-melwitt
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 11:29 AM Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com mailto:smooney@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2022-10-26 at 11:13 -0500, Kendall Nelson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 1:52 PM Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com <mailto:gmann@ghanshyammann.com>> > wrote: > > > ---- On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:32:46 -0700 Kendall Nelson wrote --- > > > Hello Everyone! > > > Congratulations on a great virtual PTG last week :) > > > > > > The OpenInfra Foundation is hosting the OpenInfra Summit in Vancouver > > [1], June 13 -15, 2023. > > > We are trying to determine the level of interest among contributors to > > OpenInfra projects on attending a co-located PTG in Vancouver. The exact > > format and dates are still being determined. At this time, we are > > evaluating the level of interest from an attendee and employer perspective. > > Please complete the following poll so we can measure the level of interest > > and plan accordingly. Future updates will be distributed to the project > > mailing lists as well as previous PTG attendees. > > > > > > > Thanks, Kendall for collecting the feedback and survey. One question to > > understand the future PTGs schedule. > > > > As PTGs are aligned with the OpenStack new development cycle timing, they > > were very helpful to plan the > > new cycle features/work well at the start of the cycle. But seeing the > > summit co-located PTG timing which > > is June, I am curious to know if there will be a PTG for the 2023.2 (B) > > cycle in April (with 2023.1 Antelope releasing > > at the March end) also? Or we are going to have only one in June which > > will be co-located in Vancouver Summit (once > > it is final based on survey results). > > > > We would still do the usual virtual PTG on the ''normal" timeline. This > potential add on to Vancouver would be in addition to the virtual PTG. so replacing the fourm? > > > > Definitely, having a co-located PTGs in Summit is a very good idea, saving > > travel, and being much more productive also > > but it's just timing from OpenStack release perspective making it a little > > bit difficult. > > > > -gmann > > > > > Poll: > > https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023 <https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023> > > > > > > As a reminder, we are also gathering feedback for the virtual PTG here: > > https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback <https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback> > > > > > > -Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) > > > [1] https://openinfra.dev/summit/ <https://openinfra.dev/summit/> > >
---- On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 12:01:43 -0700 melanie witt wrote ---
On Wed Oct 26 2022 11:24:37 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time), Kendall Nelson kennelson11@gmail.com> wrote:
No that wasn't the plan. I think the Forum will also still happen as per usual.
TBH, I wouldn't mind it (and I think I would actually prefer it) if we went back to the OG model of having the summit and the design summit at the same time. I was never into the split off into the PTG but wanted to be open minded. I think having the user-oriented energy of the summit combined with the ability to participate on the dev side at the same event was a good thing. I might be alone in this feeling though.
I agree and it will definitely help to connect users/operators more in the dev community. Honestly saying, I always liked that model.
-gmann
That said, I think gmann highlighted the challenge with this would be how we really need to have two events per year to collaborate on each upcoming release. I wonder if we could do one co-located event with the summit and then a virtual PTG for the other cycle? I dunno if the virtual PTG is too resource intensive. I'm generally not a fan of virtual events but I have quite liked the virtual PTG. I think it has been running really smoothly and very productive.
Just my 2c.
-melwitt
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 11:29 AM Sean Mooney smooney@redhat.com smooney@redhat.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 2022-10-26 at 11:13 -0500, Kendall Nelson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 1:52 PM Ghanshyam Mann gmann@ghanshyammann.com gmann@ghanshyammann.com>> > wrote: > > > ---- On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:32:46 -0700 Kendall Nelson wrote --- > > > Hello Everyone! > > > Congratulations on a great virtual PTG last week :) > > > > > > The OpenInfra Foundation is hosting the OpenInfra Summit in Vancouver > > [1], June 13 -15, 2023. > > > We are trying to determine the level of interest among contributors to > > OpenInfra projects on attending a co-located PTG in Vancouver. The exact > > format and dates are still being determined. At this time, we are > > evaluating the level of interest from an attendee and employer perspective. > > Please complete the following poll so we can measure the level of interest > > and plan accordingly. Future updates will be distributed to the project > > mailing lists as well as previous PTG attendees. > > > > > > > Thanks, Kendall for collecting the feedback and survey. One question to > > understand the future PTGs schedule. > > > > As PTGs are aligned with the OpenStack new development cycle timing, they > > were very helpful to plan the > > new cycle features/work well at the start of the cycle. But seeing the > > summit co-located PTG timing which > > is June, I am curious to know if there will be a PTG for the 2023.2 (B) > > cycle in April (with 2023.1 Antelope releasing > > at the March end) also? Or we are going to have only one in June which > > will be co-located in Vancouver Summit (once > > it is final based on survey results). > > > > We would still do the usual virtual PTG on the ''normal" timeline. This > potential add on to Vancouver would be in addition to the virtual PTG. so replacing the fourm? > > > > Definitely, having a co-located PTGs in Summit is a very good idea, saving > > travel, and being much more productive also > > but it's just timing from OpenStack release perspective making it a little > > bit difficult. > > > > -gmann > > > > > Poll: > > https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023 https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023> > > > > > > As a reminder, we are also gathering feedback for the virtual PTG here: > > https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback> > > > > > > -Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) > > > [1] https://openinfra.dev/summit/ https://openinfra.dev/summit/> > >
Le mer. 26 oct. 2022 à 21:08, melanie witt melwittt@gmail.com a écrit :
On Wed Oct 26 2022 11:24:37 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time), Kendall Nelson kennelson11@gmail.com wrote:
No that wasn't the plan. I think the Forum will also still happen as per usual.
TBH, I wouldn't mind it (and I think I would actually prefer it) if we went back to the OG model of having the summit and the design summit at the same time. I was never into the split off into the PTG but wanted to be open minded. I think having the user-oriented energy of the summit combined with the ability to participate on the dev side at the same event was a good thing. I might be alone in this feeling though.
That said, I think gmann highlighted the challenge with this would be how we really need to have two events per year to collaborate on each upcoming release. I wonder if we could do one co-located event with the summit and then a virtual PTG for the other cycle? I dunno if the virtual PTG is too resource intensive. I'm generally not a fan of virtual events but I have quite liked the virtual PTG. I think it has been running really smoothly and very productive.
I agree with Melanie here. My personal view is that we could take the opportunity to gather back operators and developers into one single event that would happen once a year, ideally be the OIF Summit which would incidentally be at the beginning of a release period (ideal time to showcase the recent new features and to hear from feeeback before starting to draft other features) Virtual PTGs would still be necessary at every odd release since there were no physical PTG but in this situation, we would rotate between physical and virtual every 6 months, which should give us benefits of both.
Last note, as we started having tick-tock releases [1], this sounds fitting perfectly our new release model : physical PTGs could happen at the beginning of a tock release and virtual PTGs at the beginning of a tick.
HTH, -Sylvain
[1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20220210-release-cadence-adj...
Just my 2c.
-melwitt
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 11:29 AM Sean Mooney <smooney@redhat.com mailto:smooney@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2022-10-26 at 11:13 -0500, Kendall Nelson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 1:52 PM Ghanshyam Mann <gmann@ghanshyammann.com <mailto:gmann@ghanshyammann.com>> > wrote: > > > ---- On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 11:32:46 -0700 Kendall Nelson wrote
> > > Hello Everyone! > > > Congratulations on a great virtual PTG last week :) > > > > > > The OpenInfra Foundation is hosting the OpenInfra Summit in Vancouver > > [1], June 13 -15, 2023. > > > We are trying to determine the level of interest among contributors to > > OpenInfra projects on attending a co-located PTG in Vancouver. The exact > > format and dates are still being determined. At this time, weare
> > evaluating the level of interest from an attendee and employer perspective. > > Please complete the following poll so we can measure the level of interest > > and plan accordingly. Future updates will be distributed to the project > > mailing lists as well as previous PTG attendees. > > > > > > > Thanks, Kendall for collecting the feedback and survey. One question to > > understand the future PTGs schedule. > > > > As PTGs are aligned with the OpenStack new development cycle timing, they > > were very helpful to plan the > > new cycle features/work well at the start of the cycle. But seeing the > > summit co-located PTG timing which > > is June, I am curious to know if there will be a PTG for the 2023.2 (B) > > cycle in April (with 2023.1 Antelope releasing > > at the March end) also? Or we are going to have only one in June which > > will be co-located in Vancouver Summit (once > > it is final based on survey results). > > > > We would still do the usual virtual PTG on the ''normal" timeline. This > potential add on to Vancouver would be in addition to the virtual PTG. so replacing the fourm? > > > > Definitely, having a co-located PTGs in Summit is a very good idea, saving > > travel, and being much more productive also > > but it's just timing from OpenStack release perspective making it a little > > bit difficult. > > > > -gmann > > > > > Poll: > > https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023 <https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023> > > > > > > As a reminder, we are also gathering feedback for the virtual PTG here: > > https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback <https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Oct2022_PTGFeedback> > > > > > > -Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo) > > > [1] https://openinfra.dev/summit/ <https://openinfra.dev/summit/> > >
On 27 Oct 2022, at 13:22, Sylvain Bauza wrote:
I agree with Melanie here. My personal view is that we could take the opportunity to gather back operators and developers into one single event that would happen once a year,
Since there were some sessions in Berlin where a good mix of operators and devs would’ve been good (the lbaas forum session for example), I’d think this would be good to have again. The operator sessions last week (octavia as an example) were also very good and show that enable more perator<>dev dialogue is worth pursuing.
felix
participants (6)
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Felix Kronlage-Dammers
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Ghanshyam Mann
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Kendall Nelson
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melanie witt
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Sean Mooney
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Sylvain Bauza