[openstack-tc] TC meeting tomorrow Tue Oct 23, 20:00 UTC

Anne Gentle anne at openstack.org
Mon Oct 22 19:47:27 UTC 2012


Hi all  -
With the time difference for me tomorrow I may not be able to attend if I
don't have Internet access... But I will try my best.

Anne

On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Monty Taylor wrote:

>
>
> On 10/22/2012 10:55 AM, John Dickinson wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 22, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Russell Bryant <rbryant at redhat.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/22/2012 12:44 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
> >>
> >>> 2.6/3.x support
> >>>
> >>> What do we do about python 2.6? Currently we have to run oneiric slaves
> >>> for 2.6 testing because precise doesn't have it. I think swift cares
> >>> about 2.6, but I don't think anyone else does. Swift has also been
> >>> asking for lucid testing. Cutting off 2.6 support will be important for
> >>> beginning to think about 3.x support.
> >>>
> >>> Straw man proposal:
> >>> - Drop 2.6 testing support across the board for this cycle for the
> >>> master branch. Add some lucid slaves and use them for testing of swift.
> >>> (nothing other than swift has a chance in hell of working on lucid)
> Keep
> >>> the current oneiric-based 2.6 jobs for 2.6 testing of
> >>> stable/{diablo,essex,folsom}
> >>> - Moving forward, make plans for grizzly+1 to get swift off of 2.6 (is
> >>> there any chance of that being reasonable notmyname?) so that we can
> >>> start looking towards across the board support for 3.x. In the mean
> >>> time, add some quantal builders with 3.3 installed and run some
> >>> non-voting 3.3 jobs on some of the projects. (it's possible to have 2.7
> >>> and 3.3 code that is source-code compatible)
> >>
> >> I think an initial question around 2.6 support is where does 2.6 support
> >> matter?  What distributions still use it?  (i.e. what is the impact of
> >> the project dropping support for it?)  Once we determine the potential
> >> impact, we can weigh that against the potential benefits of doing it.
> >>
> >> RHEL 6.X and its derivatives (CentOS, Scientific Linux, ...) use 2.6.
> >> Anything else?
> >
> > Lucid is still supported and has Py2.6. I'd like to see testing for
> currently supported LTS versions (lucid and precise, today). I'm not as
> concerned with non-LTS releases since I haven't really seen those in prod
> clusters.
> >
> > My general priority is
> >
> > 1) currently supported Ubuntu LTS releases
> > 2) CentOS 6
> > 3) other Linux distros (including non-LTS Ubuntus)
> > 4) other non-Linux platforms
> >
> > Therefore, because of Lucid and CentOS, Py2.6 is still a priority in my
> mind.
>
> This is a good point ... quick devil's advocate question - will the
> Lucid support term get us to a point where we'll still be trying to
> support it while trying to move to Python 3 when ubuntu drops Python 2?
> (I belive python 2 will not be in the next ubuntu LTS, correct)? My
> biggest concern is that we don't get our backs to the wall with the
> python 3 question.
>
> I think supporting existing LTS's make sense for things that actual had
> stable releases on that LTS (swift in this case - nothing else in the
> openstack stack worked in the Lucid timeframe)
>
> OTOH - anybody have any idea what the RHEL story around python2 and 3 is
> going to be?
>
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