[Openstack-operators] A Hypervisor supporting containers

matt matt at nycresistor.com
Fri May 2 04:16:02 UTC 2014

not going to get into the drama of the inner working of the dev teams...
but, losing container support from a release is a major feature hit against
openstack.  the people will lament.

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Michael Still <mikal at stillhq.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Eric Windisch <eric at windisch.us> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Michael Still <mikal at stillhq.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, the matrix is trying to day that lxc under libvirt is not well
> >> tested. I don't think there are any plans to remove it... Its much
> >> more likely we'll fix the testing than remove that code.
> >>
> >> The biggest problem here is that no one is really actively working on
> >> container support.
> >
> > That's not true, is it? Much of the effort just happens to live in
> > stackforge right now. There are arguments that that work, by virtue of
> being
> > in Stackforge, isn't "valid" or subsequently, "doesn't exist", I've heard
> > such arguments in the past... but it doesn't invalidate the fact that
> there
> > is legitimate work and effort toward containers (and Docker) in
> OpenStack.
> >
> > Also, it isn't just me. The Docker driver (now in Stackforge) seems to
> have
> > 6-10 active contributors. Missing features such as Neutron support have
> been
> > added. A multi-contributor effort to gate with Tempest is now in force.
> I think it was clear during Icehouse that you were the only person
> working on CI for docker, which was why it didn't make it before the
> deadline. I think you're doing good work and don't mean to diminish
> that. However, its good to hear you're getting some more help now.
> > I agree the dedicated containers API / service has had limited traction.
> The
> > proposal to discuss this during the summit was rejected. Unfortunately,
> the
> > unconference track was removed, but several of the interested parties
> have
> > discussed organizing a less formal meeting co-located with the
> conference.
> This is more what I was referring to. People have been working on a
> container service for an entire release and we've heard nothing. The
> summit session was an API brainstorming session -- that's what's meant
> to have been happening for the last six months. I think the nova team
> is waiting to see a concrete proposal, not yet more discussion.
> Michael
> --
> Rackspace Australia
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