[openstack-dev] Pros and Cons of face-to-face meetings

Flint WALRUS gael.therond at gmail.com
Thu Mar 8 17:49:35 UTC 2018

Pretty easy, put the PTG online with a livestream on
YouTube/Hangout/whatever platform that will then be saved and could even be
watched later on!

It’s just a matter of some hardware and a decent internet bandwidth that’s
already available to almost every places where a PTG took place.

Problem solved.

PS: Even if I second your thoughts about the fact that some can make it to
a physical meeting for some reason (And I’m one of them), your email sounds
a little bit aggressive. Miss some smiley ? ;-)
Le jeu. 8 mars 2018 à 15:04, Jens Harbott <j.harbott at x-ion.de> a écrit :

> With the current PTG just finished and seeing discussions happen about
> the format of the next[0], it seems that the advantages of these seem
> to be pretty clear to most, so let me use the occasion to remind
> everyone of the disadvantages.
> Every meeting that is happening is excluding those contributors that
> can not attend it. And with that it is violating the fourth Open
> principle[1], having a community that is open to everyone. If you are
> wondering whom this would affect, here's a non-exclusive (sic) list of
> valid reasons not to attend physical meetings:
> - Health issues
> - Privilege issues (like not getting visa or travel permits)
> - Caretaking responsibilities (children, other family, animals, plants)
> - Environmental concerns
> So when you are considering whether it is worth the money and effort
> to organise PTGs or similar events, I'd like you also to consider
> those being excluded by such activities. It is not without a reason
> that IRC and emails have been settled upon as preferred means of
> communication. I'm not saying that physical meetings should be dropped
> altogether, but maybe more effort can be placed into providing means
> of remote participation, which might at least reduce some effects.
> [0]
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/127991.html
> [1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/opens.html
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