[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Team meeting on Tuesday 1400UTC

Vikram Choudhary vikschw at gmail.com
Tue Jan 12 14:04:06 UTC 2016


21:00 UTC is too difficult for me to attend. It's early morning (2:30 AM) ;(

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo <mangelajo at redhat.com>
wrote:

> I agree with Gary here,
>
>    The 21:00 UTC time here is a difficult time for me, because it's
> exactly the time of getting kids to sleep
> at home. It's generally very unpredictable for me.
>
>     I missed last meeting exactly because of that, laptop was ready, I was
> ready, kids didn't cooperate.
>
>     I will do my best to be there every 21:00 UTC if it's finally changed,
> but, I can't guarantee.
>
>
> Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
>
>> Agreed with Gary on behalf of my European compatriots. (Note that I
>> *personally* +1’d the patch because I don’t mind, doing late hours anyway;
>> but it’s sad it was ninja merged without giving any chance for those from
>> affected timezones to express their concerns).
>>
>> Ihar
>>
>> Gary Kotton <gkotton at vmware.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>> I personally liked that fact that there were two times. It was
>>> reasonable to make an effort to stay up very late to attend the one and
>>> then have the privileged of the other being at a reasonable time. Now it is
>>> back to the crazy hours.
>>> Thanks
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> From: Hirofumi Ichihara <ichihara.hirofumi at lab.ntt.co.jp>
>>> Reply-To: OpenStack List <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
>>> Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 1:39 AM
>>> To: OpenStack List <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Team meeting on Tuesday 1400UTC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016/01/12 7:14, Armando M. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11 January 2016 at 13:54, Hirofumi Ichihara <
>>>> ichihara.hirofumi at lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016/01/12 5:14, Armando M. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11 January 2016 at 12:04, Carl Baldwin <carl at ecbaldwin.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do we do?  My calendar was set up with the sane bi-weekly thing
>>>>>>> and it shows the meeting for tomorrow.  The last word from our
>>>>>>> fearless leader is that we'll have it today.  So, I'll be there today
>>>>>>> unless instructed otherwise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ics file now seems to reset the cadence beginning today at 2100
>>>>>>> and next Tuesday, the 19th, at 1400.  I guess we should either hold
>>>>>>> the meeting today and reset the cadence or fix the ics file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is what I would like to do now:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266019
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I personally haven't seen that much of an attendance difference
>>>>>> anyway, and at this point, it'll simplify our lives and avoid grief going
>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, we have gathered from all over the world because neutron is
>>>>> big project. Should we have the choice so that more people get attendance
>>>>> opportunity?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This time, the return to the normal schedule was a disaster, plus every
>>>> time we switch to daylight savings, or every time there's a holiday
>>>> break/summit we have twice the chances to screw up if we keep the bi-weekly
>>>> schedule.
>>>>
>>>> If I go and look at the logs [1] I don't have hard evidence that the
>>>> bi-weekly schedule does indeed help the attendance of friendlier timezones,
>>>> so I wonder...what's the point?
>>>>
>>> You're right. My reply was just general opinion. I think that most
>>> regular folks probably attend both days now. I actually do as well.
>>>
>>> I was worried that sometimes there are developers who introduce his bug
>>> or ask core to review although they usually don't attend. However, we have
>>> openstack-neutron channel for it.
>>>
>>> A.
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Kevin Benton <blak111 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > The issue is simply that you have a sane bi-weekly thing setup in
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> > calendar. What we have for Neutron is apparently defined as “odd
>>>>>>> and even
>>>>>>> > weeks when weeks are represented as an short integer counting from
>>>>>>> the first
>>>>>>> > of the year”, a.k.a. “bi-weekly” as a robot might define it. :)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Kyle Mestery <mestery at mestery.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Kyle Mestery <
>>>>>>> mestery at mestery.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Armando M. <armamig at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Disregard the email subject.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> I stand corrected. Let's meet today.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Something is wrong, I have the meeting on my google calendar, and
>>>>>>> it shows
>>>>>>> >> up as tomorrow for this week. I've had these setup as rotating
>>>>>>> for a while
>>>>>>> >> now, so something is fishy with the .ics files.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > If you look here [1], the meeting cadence was:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > 12-15-2015: Tuesday
>>>>>>> > 12-21-2015: Monday
>>>>>>> > 12-29-2015: Tuesday (skipped)
>>>>>>> > 01-04-2016: Monday (skipped)
>>>>>>> > 01-12-2016 Tuesday
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > The meeting is tomorrow.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > [1] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On 11 January 2016 at 10:24, Ihar Hrachyshka <
>>>>>>> ihrachys at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Armando M. <armamig at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Hi neutrinos,
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> A kind reminder for tomorrow's meeting at 1400UTC.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> >>>>> Armando
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings
>>>>>>> >>>>>
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>>>>>>> >>>> Is it just me, or when you use .ics file from eavesdrop, it
>>>>>>> says the
>>>>>>> >>>> meeting is today?
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/calendars/neutron-team-meeting.ics
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Is it the same issue as described in:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/082902.html
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> and that is suggested to fix by readding your events from
>>>>>>> updated .ics
>>>>>>> >>>> file:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083216.html
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>>>>>>> >>>> Ihar
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
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