<div dir="ltr">21:00 UTC is too difficult for me to attend. It's early morning (2:30 AM) ;(</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mangelajo@redhat.com" target="_blank">mangelajo@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I agree with Gary here,<br>
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The 21:00 UTC time here is a difficult time for me, because it's exactly the time of getting kids to sleep<br>
at home. It's generally very unpredictable for me.<br>
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I missed last meeting exactly because of that, laptop was ready, I was ready, kids didn't cooperate.<br>
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I will do my best to be there every 21:00 UTC if it's finally changed, but, I can't guarantee.<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:<br>
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Agreed with Gary on behalf of my European compatriots. (Note that I *personally* +1’d the patch because I don’t mind, doing late hours anyway; but it’s sad it was ninja merged without giving any chance for those from affected timezones to express their concerns).<br>
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Ihar<br>
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Gary Kotton <<a href="mailto:gkotton@vmware.com" target="_blank">gkotton@vmware.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
I personally liked that fact that there were two times. It was reasonable to make an effort to stay up very late to attend the one and then have the privileged of the other being at a reasonable time. Now it is back to the crazy hours.<br>
Thanks<br>
Gary<br>
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From: Hirofumi Ichihara <<a href="mailto:ichihara.hirofumi@lab.ntt.co.jp" target="_blank">ichihara.hirofumi@lab.ntt.co.jp</a>><br>
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Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 1:39 AM<br>
To: OpenStack List <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Team meeting on Tuesday 1400UTC<br>
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On 2016/01/12 7:14, Armando M. wrote:<br>
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On 11 January 2016 at 13:54, Hirofumi Ichihara <<a href="mailto:ichihara.hirofumi@lab.ntt.co.jp" target="_blank">ichihara.hirofumi@lab.ntt.co.jp</a>> wrote:<br>
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On 2016/01/12 5:14, Armando M. wrote:<br>
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On 11 January 2016 at 12:04, Carl Baldwin <<a href="mailto:carl@ecbaldwin.net" target="_blank">carl@ecbaldwin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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What do we do? My calendar was set up with the sane bi-weekly thing<br>
and it shows the meeting for tomorrow. The last word from our<br>
fearless leader is that we'll have it today. So, I'll be there today<br>
unless instructed otherwise.<br>
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The ics file now seems to reset the cadence beginning today at 2100<br>
and next Tuesday, the 19th, at 1400. I guess we should either hold<br>
the meeting today and reset the cadence or fix the ics file.<br>
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This is what I would like to do now:<br>
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<a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266019" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266019</a><br>
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I personally haven't seen that much of an attendance difference anyway, and at this point, it'll simplify our lives and avoid grief going forward.<br>
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I like it.<br>
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However, we have gathered from all over the world because neutron is big project. Should we have the choice so that more people get attendance opportunity?<br>
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This time, the return to the normal schedule was a disaster, plus every time we switch to daylight savings, or every time there's a holiday break/summit we have twice the chances to screw up if we keep the bi-weekly schedule.<br>
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If I go and look at the logs [1] I don't have hard evidence that the bi-weekly schedule does indeed help the attendance of friendlier timezones, so I wonder...what's the point?<br>
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You're right. My reply was just general opinion. I think that most regular folks probably attend both days now. I actually do as well.<br>
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I was worried that sometimes there are developers who introduce his bug or ask core to review although they usually don't attend. However, we have openstack-neutron channel for it.<br>
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A.<br>
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[1] <a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/</a><br>
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Carl<br>
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On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Kevin Benton <<a href="mailto:blak111@gmail.com" target="_blank">blak111@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> The issue is simply that you have a sane bi-weekly thing setup in your<br>
> calendar. What we have for Neutron is apparently defined as “odd and even<br>
> weeks when weeks are represented as an short integer counting from the first<br>
> of the year”, a.k.a. “bi-weekly” as a robot might define it. :)<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Kyle Mestery <<a href="mailto:mestery@mestery.com" target="_blank">mestery@mestery.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Kyle Mestery <<a href="mailto:mestery@mestery.com" target="_blank">mestery@mestery.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Armando M. <<a href="mailto:armamig@gmail.com" target="_blank">armamig@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Disregard the email subject.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I stand corrected. Let's meet today.<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> Something is wrong, I have the meeting on my google calendar, and it shows<br>
>> up as tomorrow for this week. I've had these setup as rotating for a while<br>
>> now, so something is fishy with the .ics files.<br>
><br>
><br>
> If you look here [1], the meeting cadence was:<br>
><br>
> 12-15-2015: Tuesday<br>
> 12-21-2015: Monday<br>
> 12-29-2015: Tuesday (skipped)<br>
> 01-04-2016: Monday (skipped)<br>
> 01-12-2016 Tuesday<br>
><br>
> The meeting is tomorrow.<br>
><br>
> [1] <a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 11 January 2016 at 10:24, Ihar Hrachyshka <<a href="mailto:ihrachys@redhat.com" target="_blank">ihrachys@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Armando M. <<a href="mailto:armamig@gmail.com" target="_blank">armamig@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi neutrinos,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> A kind reminder for tomorrow's meeting at 1400UTC.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>>> Armando<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> [1] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings</a><br>
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>>>> Is it just me, or when you use .ics file from eavesdrop, it says the<br>
>>>> meeting is today?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/calendars/neutron-team-meeting.ics" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/calendars/neutron-team-meeting.ics</a><br>
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>>>> Is it the same issue as described in:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/082902.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/082902.html</a> <br>
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>>>> file:<br>
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