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On 08/14/2014 02:48 PM, Dugger, Donald D wrote:
>
> My experience with mics, no matter how good, In conference rooms is 
> not good.  You are always working hard to hear the soft spoken person 
> who is drowned by the background noise. It’s always a strain and I 
> don’t want to even think about doing it for a full 8 hrs.  It’s better 
> than nothing so I agree, we need to provide some sort of remote 
> conferencing at meetups but nothing compares with actually being there.
>
> I’m not a core so I’m speaking from the outside but I think requiring 
> attendance at the summits (absence requires a note from your parent 
> Jwhile strongly encouraging attendance at mid-cycle meetups seems 
> reasonable.
>

I think expecting summit attendance, rather than requiring, is a better 
way to say it, but otherwise I agree that this seems reasonable.


> PS: In re companies spending millions on OpenStack so travel to f2f 
> events should be a drop in the bucket.  It doesn’t always work that 
> way with the finance department, money comes out of different buckets 
> and the travel bucket `always` dries up first.
>
> --
>
> Don Dugger
>
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>
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> *From:*Joe Gordon [mailto:joe.gordon0 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:48 PM
> *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still <mikal at stillhq.com 
> <mailto:mikal at stillhq.com>> wrote:
>
>     On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jaypipes at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     > Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this
>     important topic. I
>     > very much valued the face-to-face interaction that came from the
>     mid-cycle
>     > meetup in Beaverton (it was the only one I've ever been to).
>     >
>     > That said, I do not believe it should be a requirement that
>     cores make it to
>     > the face-to-face meetings in-person. A number of folks have
>     brought up very
>     > valid concerns about personal/family time, travel costs and burnout.
>
>     I'm not proposing they be a requirement. I am proposing that they be
>     strongly encouraged.
>
>
>     > I believe that the issue raised about furthering the divide
>     between core and
>     > non-core folks is actually the biggest reason I don't support a
>     mandate to
>     > have cores at the face-to-face meetings, and I think we should
>     make our best
>     > efforts to support quality virtual meetings that can be done on
>     a more
>     > frequent basis than the face-to-face meetings that would be
>     optional.
>
>     I am all for online meetings, but we don't have a practical way to do
>     them at the moment apart from IRC. Until someone has a concrete
>     proposal that's been shown to work, I feel its a straw man argument.
>
> What about making it easier for remote people to participate at the 
> mid-cycle meetups? Set up some microphones and a Google hangout?  At 
> least that way attending the mid-cycle is not all or nothing.
>
> We did something like this last cycle (IIRC we didn't have enough 
> mics) and it worked pretty well.
>
>
>     Michael
>
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>     Rackspace Australia
>
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