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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/14/2014 02:48 PM, Dugger, Donald
D wrote:<br>
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experience with mics, no matter how good, In conference
rooms is not good. You are always working hard to hear the
soft spoken person who is drowned by the background noise.
It’s always a strain and I don’t want to even think about
doing it for a full 8 hrs. It’s better than nothing so I
agree, we need to provide some sort of remote conferencing
at meetups but nothing compares with actually being there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m
not a core so I’m speaking from the outside but I think
requiring attendance at the summits (absence requires a note
from your parent
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while strongly encouraging attendance at mid-cycle meetups
seems reasonable.</span></p>
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I think expecting summit attendance, rather than requiring, is a
better way to say it, but otherwise I agree that this seems
reasonable.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">PS:
In re companies spending millions on OpenStack so travel to
f2f events should be a drop in the bucket. It doesn’t
always work that way with the finance department, money
comes out of different buckets and the travel bucket
`always` dries up first.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Don
Dugger<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">"Censeo
Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse." - D. Gale<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ph:
303/443-3786<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Joe Gordon [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:joe.gordon0@gmail.com">mailto:joe.gordon0@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core]
Expectations of core reviewers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM,
Michael Still <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes <<a
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> Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my
thoughts on this important topic. I<br>
> very much valued the face-to-face interaction
that came from the mid-cycle<br>
> meetup in Beaverton (it was the only one I've
ever been to).<br>
><br>
> That said, I do not believe it should be a
requirement that cores make it to<br>
> the face-to-face meetings in-person. A number
of folks have brought up very<br>
> valid concerns about personal/family time,
travel costs and burnout.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not proposing they be a
requirement. I am proposing that they be<br>
strongly encouraged.<o:p></o:p></p>
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> I believe that the issue raised about
furthering the divide between core and<br>
> non-core folks is actually the biggest reason I
don't support a mandate to<br>
> have cores at the face-to-face meetings, and I
think we should make our best<br>
> efforts to support quality virtual meetings
that can be done on a more<br>
> frequent basis than the face-to-face meetings
that would be optional.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am all for online meetings, but
we don't have a practical way to do<br>
them at the moment apart from IRC. Until someone has a
concrete<br>
proposal that's been shown to work, I feel its a straw
man argument.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What about making it easier for
remote people to participate at the mid-cycle meetups?
Set up some microphones and a Google hangout? At
least that way attending the mid-cycle is not all or
nothing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We did something like this last
cycle (IIRC we didn't have enough mics) and it worked
pretty well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="hoenzb">Michael</span><br>
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<span class="hoenzb">Rackspace Australia</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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