[Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session

Shamail itzshamail at gmail.com
Fri May 8 17:38:51 UTC 2015


That will work for me too.



> On May 8, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
> 
> Works for me.
> 
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Barrett, Carol L
> <carol.l.barrett at intel.com> wrote:
>> +1.
>> 
>> How does 11:00 AM Pacific work for people?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Carol
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shamail Tahir [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 10:03 AM
>> To: Mike Cohen
>> Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>> 
>> That works, should we schedule a meeting on Monday to review notes so that we can coalesce before the cross-project meeting?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ok, with me.  Maybe then lets just all assemble separate notes without
>>> changing the google doc and someone can collate it.
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I think that will work.  I'll be traveling most of the day and I was
>>> planning to download the slides and take an attempt at the summarization.
>>> I'll share my draft by Monday.  Maybe a few of us can attempt building
>>> summaries.  This will give us multiple perspectives/summaries to pull
>>> from for each project before we finalize the ones we can internally
>>> agree on prior to the cross-project meeting.  Is this okay?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll be midway through the airport security.  I try to join for a
>>>>> portion but cannot be counted on unfortunately.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The other question is who is going to do the summarizing.  I went
>>>>> ahead and removed the labels with people's names from slides 9-17.
>>>>> I've also backed up all of these slides to the end of the preso.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shamail / Scott or whoever else wants to edit these.  Go ahead and
>>>>> put your name in a new label on the slide to show its been done.
>>>>> Would that work as a process?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Scott Drennan <
>>> scottd at nuagenetworks.net> wrote:
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I like that we’re reviewing with the PTLs - thanks for pushing
>>>>>> this
>>> forward.
>>>>>> According to
>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting
>>>>>> it’s at 2100 UTC, which is 1400 PT if I’m doing my math correctly.
>>>>>> I’m travelling/in meetings Tuesday afternoon but will try to join
>>>>>> for some
>>> of
>>>>>> the discussion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok with me.  We can take a crack at it and see how it goes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When is the cross project session tuesday? I'm traveling that day
>>>>>> so i may or may not be able to make it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Team, Mike?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Barrett, Carol L <
>>> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think we should ask for 20 mins and review the Summary. I'm
>>>>>> concerned about getting their mindshare outside of the meeting in
>>>>>> the swirl of Vancouver prep work going on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 8:28 AM
>>>>>> To: Barrett, Carol L
>>>>>> Cc: Mike Cohen; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Carol,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The timeline would work and sounds like a great way for reaching a
>>>>>> lot
>>> of
>>>>>> PTLs.  Do we want to review the summary or just ask for 5 min to
>>>>>> tell
>>> them
>>>>>> where to find it and provide feedback directly to us?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Shamail
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 8, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Barrett, Carol L <
>>> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shamail - I like  your proposed solution. How about we put
>>>>>> ourselves
>>> on the
>>>>>> cross project session for Tuesday to review? Will that give enough
>>> time to
>>>>>> summarize?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 5:30 PM
>>>>>> To: Mike Cohen
>>>>>> Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wanted to follow-up on the "roadmap" slides conversation we had
>>> earlier
>>>>>> today.  Here are some thoughts to start the discussion via the ML...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are two approaches and we will need to balance between them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Problem Statement:
>>>>>> The way the PTL feedback is documented today is not consumable
>>>>>> content
>>> form
>>>>>> (no theme, no "why", etc.), but at the same time, paraphrasing
>>>>>> could
>>> put us
>>>>>> in a situation where we could unintentionally misrepresent their
>>> intentions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Proposed Solution:
>>>>>> We build a new version of the roadmap content that is summarized
>>>>>> and provides "themes" or the "why" and we ask the PTLs to review
>>>>>> the
>>> paraphrased
>>>>>> version and approve it prior to the summit.  This would have to be
>>> done by
>>>>>> next week.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alternative Plan:
>>>>>> We also keep a version of the roadmap that is the same content on
>>>>>> the roadmap as today.  If we can't get PTL responses in time then
>>>>>> we move forward with this version.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Summary:
>>>>>> Roadmap focus would be good for session #1 and paraphrasing would
>>>>>> be beneficial.  If we can't get PTLs to review our modified
>>>>>> version then
>>> we
>>>>>> have to move forward with the alternative plan.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll take an initial shot at summarizing the current feedback.
>>>>>> I'll
>>> share
>>>>>> my progress with the team no later than Monday.  We can modify the
>>> summary
>>>>>> as a team afterwards.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Shamail
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 7, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A few of us got on the phone today and discussed having a final
>>>>>> meeting to finalize the presentation flow for the Monday session.
>>>>>> We are largely there on content but really still have to nail down
>>>>>> the presenters and finalize things. We also still have to finalize
>>>>>> how to split things with the second session.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am proposing doing this at 9am PT Thurs 5/14.  I've set it up as
>>>>>> a webex so we can review the PPT version of the slides Shamail has
>>>>>> been gracious enough to build from our Google doc (note please
>>>>>> don't add to the google doc without telling him from here on out).
>>>>>> If the time is not good for anyone who wants to be involved, you
>>>>>> can speak up on this thread as well.
>>>>>> 
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