[Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session

Mike Cohen cohen at noironetworks.com
Fri May 8 17:34:26 UTC 2015


Works for me.

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Barrett, Carol L
<carol.l.barrett at intel.com> wrote:
> +1.
>
> How does 11:00 AM Pacific work for people?
>
> Thanks
> Carol
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shamail Tahir [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 10:03 AM
> To: Mike Cohen
> Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>
> That works, should we schedule a meeting on Monday to review notes so that we can coalesce before the cross-project meeting?
>
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> ok, with me.  Maybe then lets just all assemble separate notes without
>> changing the google doc and someone can collate it.
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I think that will work.  I'll be traveling most of the day and I was
>> planning to download the slides and take an attempt at the summarization.
>> I'll share my draft by Monday.  Maybe a few of us can attempt building
>> summaries.  This will give us multiple perspectives/summaries to pull
>> from for each project before we finalize the ones we can internally
>> agree on prior to the cross-project meeting.  Is this okay?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On May 8, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'll be midway through the airport security.  I try to join for a
>> >> portion but cannot be counted on unfortunately.
>> >>
>> >> The other question is who is going to do the summarizing.  I went
>> >> ahead and removed the labels with people's names from slides 9-17.
>> >> I've also backed up all of these slides to the end of the preso.
>> >>
>> >> Shamail / Scott or whoever else wants to edit these.  Go ahead and
>> >> put your name in a new label on the slide to show its been done.
>> >> Would that work as a process?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Scott Drennan <
>> scottd at nuagenetworks.net> wrote:
>> >>> +1
>> >>>
>> >>> I like that we’re reviewing with the PTLs - thanks for pushing
>> >>> this
>> forward.
>> >>> According to
>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting
>> >>> it’s at 2100 UTC, which is 1400 PT if I’m doing my math correctly.
>> >>> I’m travelling/in meetings Tuesday afternoon but will try to join
>> >>> for some
>> of
>> >>> the discussion.
>> >>>
>> >>> cheers,
>> >>> Scott
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ok with me.  We can take a crack at it and see how it goes.
>> >>>
>> >>> When is the cross project session tuesday? I'm traveling that day
>> >>> so i may or may not be able to make it.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> +1
>> >>>
>> >>> Team, Mike?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 8, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Barrett, Carol L <
>> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I think we should ask for 20 mins and review the Summary. I'm
>> >>> concerned about getting their mindshare outside of the meeting in
>> >>> the swirl of Vancouver prep work going on.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thoughts?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Carol
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
>> >>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 8:28 AM
>> >>> To: Barrett, Carol L
>> >>> Cc: Mike Cohen; product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Carol,
>> >>>
>> >>> The timeline would work and sounds like a great way for reaching a
>> >>> lot
>> of
>> >>> PTLs.  Do we want to review the summary or just ask for 5 min to
>> >>> tell
>> them
>> >>> where to find it and provide feedback directly to us?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Shamail
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 8, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Barrett, Carol L <
>> carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Shamail - I like  your proposed solution. How about we put
>> >>> ourselves
>> on the
>> >>> cross project session for Tuesday to review? Will that give enough
>> time to
>> >>> summarize?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Carol
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Shamail [mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com]
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 5:30 PM
>> >>> To: Mike Cohen
>> >>> Cc: product-wg at lists.openstack.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Product] Finalizing Glimpse @ Roadmap Session
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> I wanted to follow-up on the "roadmap" slides conversation we had
>> earlier
>> >>> today.  Here are some thoughts to start the discussion via the ML...
>> >>>
>> >>> There are two approaches and we will need to balance between them.
>> >>>
>> >>> Problem Statement:
>> >>> The way the PTL feedback is documented today is not consumable
>> >>> content
>> form
>> >>> (no theme, no "why", etc.), but at the same time, paraphrasing
>> >>> could
>> put us
>> >>> in a situation where we could unintentionally misrepresent their
>> intentions.
>> >>>
>> >>> Proposed Solution:
>> >>> We build a new version of the roadmap content that is summarized
>> >>> and provides "themes" or the "why" and we ask the PTLs to review
>> >>> the
>> paraphrased
>> >>> version and approve it prior to the summit.  This would have to be
>> done by
>> >>> next week.
>> >>>
>> >>> Alternative Plan:
>> >>> We also keep a version of the roadmap that is the same content on
>> >>> the roadmap as today.  If we can't get PTL responses in time then
>> >>> we move forward with this version.
>> >>>
>> >>> Summary:
>> >>> Roadmap focus would be good for session #1 and paraphrasing would
>> >>> be beneficial.  If we can't get PTLs to review our modified
>> >>> version then
>> we
>> >>> have to move forward with the alternative plan.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll take an initial shot at summarizing the current feedback.
>> >>> I'll
>> share
>> >>> my progress with the team no later than Monday.  We can modify the
>> summary
>> >>> as a team afterwards.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Shamail
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 7, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike Cohen <cohen at noironetworks.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> A few of us got on the phone today and discussed having a final
>> >>> meeting to finalize the presentation flow for the Monday session.
>> >>> We are largely there on content but really still have to nail down
>> >>> the presenters and finalize things. We also still have to finalize
>> >>> how to split things with the second session.
>> >>>
>> >>> I am proposing doing this at 9am PT Thurs 5/14.  I've set it up as
>> >>> a webex so we can review the PPT version of the slides Shamail has
>> >>> been gracious enough to build from our Google doc (note please
>> >>> don't add to the google doc without telling him from here on out).
>> >>> If the time is not good for anyone who wants to be involved, you
>> >>> can speak up on this thread as well.
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