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I'm torn.  I get the benefit of trying to do this at another event when a lot of folks will be there anyway, but at the same time, I think there are some pretty significant discussions we need to have, as operators, if we want to push Openstack to be what it can be.  If that's the case, I don’t' know that trying to fit a few talks, sessions or other short visits inside another event is going to do it justice.

>From the pain of large deploys, to the inability to run some services in a redundant fashion to the lack of maintaining state when services restart, there are a lot of areas we, as users, can give feedback to the TC and the developers that will help make this product a viable competitor to other cloud offerings (like EC2) out there.  It's not there right now, at least at scale, and I think it's up to us to change the trend of development/thought from that of building a cool private cloud technology to scaling the product to 10's of thousands, 100's of thousands or millions of nodes.  A lot needs to be done to make that happen.

Anyway, I think to accurately hash out the things we like to see for all this, we should find a time that we can get together for a couple days and discuss it all in detail without trying to stay focused on material from another conference.  That's my $.02 at least.  I'll gladly do what ever, but wanted to challenge this current thread about attaching this effort to another event a little.

Thanks a ton!
Matt

From: Sriram Subramanian <sriram at sriramhere.com<mailto:sriram at sriramhere.com>>
Date: Saturday, December 21, 2013 4:17 PM
To: Clint Byrum <clint at fewbar.com<mailto:clint at fewbar.com>>
Cc: openstack <openstack at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack at lists.openstack.org>>
Subject: Re: [Openstack] Bringing focus to the Operators and Users at the next summit

OSCON <http://www.oscon.com/oscon2014> 2014 is AFTER next OpenStack Summit - July 20 - 24, 2014.

SCALE<http://learningatscale.acm.org/> is probably doable, with WIP proposals are due only on Jan 2nd.

-Sriram


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Clint Byrum <clint at fewbar.com<mailto:clint at fewbar.com>> wrote:
Excerpts from Matthew Ray's message of 2013-12-20 20:22:20 -0800:
> Perhaps we could try to co-locate a future Operators mini-summit with
> FOSDEM or SCALE (February) and/or OSCON (July)? Events like those are
> conveniently scheduled between November and April and likely to already
> have OpenStack-related developers/deployers planning on attending. The
> logistics might not work for February, but we should start planning for the
> future.
>

OSCON is an ideal venue for this. Certainly we should approach the
organizers immediately as I'm sure plans are already solidifying.

For SCALE I think we may be too late, as the CFP has closed and it is
just 2 months away.

We're all busy, is there anybody who can step up and drive this?

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