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All great reasons why the best and really the only place for this is to
open the next summit.


On 22 Dec 2013, at 6:34 pm, Matt Van Winkle <mvanwink at rackspace.com> wrote:

 I'm torn.  I get the benefit of trying to do this at another event when a
lot of folks will be there anyway, but at the same time, I think there are
some pretty significant discussions we need to have, as operators, if we
want to push Openstack to be what it can be.  If that's the case, I don’t'
know that trying to fit a few talks, sessions or other short visits inside
another event is going to do it justice.

 From the pain of large deploys, to the inability to run some services in a
redundant fashion to the lack of maintaining state when services restart,
there are a lot of areas we, as users, can give feedback to the TC and the
developers that will help make this product a viable competitor to other
cloud offerings (like EC2) out there.  It's not there right now, at least
at scale, and I think it's up to us to change the trend of
development/thought from that of building a cool private cloud technology
to scaling the product to 10's of thousands, 100's of thousands or millions
of nodes.  A lot needs to be done to make that happen.

 Anyway, I think to accurately hash out the things we like to see for all
this, we should find a time that we can get together for a couple days and
discuss it all in detail without trying to stay focused on material from
another conference.  That's my $.02 at least.  I'll gladly do what ever,
but wanted to challenge this current thread about attaching this effort to
another event a little.

 Thanks a ton!
Matt

  From: Sriram Subramanian <sriram at sriramhere.com>
Date: Saturday, December 21, 2013 4:17 PM
To: Clint Byrum <clint at fewbar.com>
Cc: openstack <openstack at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: Re: [Openstack] Bringing focus to the Operators and Users at the
next summit

  OSCON <http://www.oscon.com/oscon2014>2014 is AFTER next OpenStack Summit
- July 20 - 24, 2014.

 SCALE <http://learningatscale.acm.org/> is probably doable, with WIP
proposals are due only on Jan 2nd.

 -Sriram


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Clint Byrum <clint at fewbar.com> wrote:

> Excerpts from Matthew Ray's message of 2013-12-20 20:22:20 -0800:
> > Perhaps we could try to co-locate a future Operators mini-summit with
> > FOSDEM or SCALE (February) and/or OSCON (July)? Events like those are
> > conveniently scheduled between November and April and likely to already
> > have OpenStack-related developers/deployers planning on attending. The
> > logistics might not work for February, but we should start planning for
> the
> > future.
> >
>
>  OSCON is an ideal venue for this. Certainly we should approach the
> organizers immediately as I'm sure plans are already solidifying.
>
> For SCALE I think we may be too late, as the CFP has closed and it is
> just 2 months away.
>
> We're all busy, is there anybody who can step up and drive this?
>
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-Sriram
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