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On 05/30/2012 04:37 PM, Devin Carlen wrote:
> Long story short - we will work to make node.js an optional build time component and leave it as an distro packaging issue.  node.js was being evaluated as a potential solution to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/realtime-communication, but that blueprint isn't targeted for Folsom, so it's very future.  We'll have a lot of time to evaluate python based alternatives.

Sounds good.  Does websockets qualify as an alternative?  If so,  I'll 
update the blueprint



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> On May 29, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Adam Young wrote:
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>> On 05/29/2012 12:29 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote:
>>> Without rehashing backstory which is available in public archives of this thread, while node is currently on the table for LESS it also may play a role
>>> in future needs as well.
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>>> As for your link, yes there are LESS compilers in other languages (there's even a nascent one in Python that's very much not ready for prime time) but requiring PHP or any other language besides Python opens a similar can of worms, and PHP gets us nowhere on any other fronts.
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>>> /me refrains from any other comments about PHP.
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>>> Moreover, the canonical LESS compiler which is the best supported and most stable is the main one written for node.js. Unless there were a 100% working Python version I see no reason not to favor the "real" LESS compiler.
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>>> All the best,
>> For LESS,  it think it is fine to use even server side Javascript.  The CSS should be compiled at RPM/DEB build time, and not at run time for live deployments,  so that is a bit of a non-issue.  I'd also be fine with using the client side LESS implementation, especially if we want to use the same implementation at development and live deployment time,  but I can understand if there are issues with doing this.
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>> Node.js is a whole different server side technology,  and that should not be implemented at this time.
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>>>      - Gabriel
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>>> On May 29, 2012, at 1:00 AM, "Matthias Runge"<mrunge at matthias-runge.de>   wrote:
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>>>> On 28/05/12 16:21, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>>>>> John Postlethwait wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry if I've missed anything below, this thread has become rather
>>>>>> fragmented and messy (at least in my email clients) but I will try to
>>>>>> address the main points I have seen so far:
>>>> Sorry, if I jump in late in this thread, I may have skipped some basics.
>>>> If I get it right, nodejs is just required to compile LESS to css, right?
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>>>> There is at least one alternative without requiring nodejs:
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>>>> https://github.com/leafo/lessphp
>>>> -- 
>>>> Matthias Runge<mrunge at matthias-runge.de>
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