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Taking a recent example, I think there is a big difference between http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-06-20.03.html and http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-09-06-20.03.log.html. The first is too short, and the second is too long.

The best thing I can come up with to describe what would be better (a midpoint) is a journalistic report of what happened at the meeting. Something with more info than what meetbot provides (3 votes, 2 decisions, jbryce talked 54 times, etc) but more clear than the IRC logs (holy great wall of text, Batman!). Meetbot's summaries are precise, but they have a non-human flavor to them, and they are only as good at the moderator for the meeting. The goal (as I understand it) of having all the meetings in the open is to make the decision-making process transparent and accessible. The current setup meets the letter of the law, but perhaps not the spirit.

--John



On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:08 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote:

> On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 12:51 -0500, John Dickinson wrote:
>> I too would like to see official community and PPB meeting summaries.
>> Ideally, I think it'd be nice for the summaries to be written by
>> someone not involved in the discussion[1], but that wouldn't be
>> required. Something between what the meetbot produces and the raw IRC
>> logs would be nice.
> 
> I'm very undecided about this as I don't know how this can be achieved.
> Nice summaries from IRC discussions are not only very hard to produce
> but also may introduce mistakes in the reports.
> 
> If meetbot reports are not sufficiently intelligible we should think
> about ways to improve them. Or adopt Apache's policy of "if the
> discussion was not on the mailing list it didn't happen".
> 
> Lets start by clearly identifying the problem: What are the major pain
> points of meetbot reports?
> 
> /stef
> 
> 
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