[Openstack] Novatools ...
andyster at gmail.com
Fri Feb 25 02:05:25 UTC 2011
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Andy Smith <andyster at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, my previous reply somehow isn't going through to the list... so...
> > here it is again:
> > I've got some objections so far:
> > 1. relying on python-cloudservers is a good metric by which to judge your
> > compatibility with the rackspace cloud, once jacob has accepted the
> > to support changing the auth endpoint. My opinion is that this project
> > should be a fork of python-cloudservers with the same name and whose
> > intention is not to add additional features at this time.
> Why? As much as I like JKM, I don't think relying on someone who has
> no interaction with the OpenStack community to accept patches from the
> OpenStack community is a good idea.
That's not at all what I said. You have two tasks here, the one described in
(1) is make minimal changes to python-cloudservers such that you can point
it at a nova deployment and test compat with existing cloudservers
implementations. The second task is described in (1a) make extensions to
that to support your immediate needs that are beyond the cloudservers
> > 1a. To support your additional features for the very short term you
> > be writing extensions to python-cloudservers (possibly with your minor
> > compat modifications) via actual python extension mechanisms (import,
> > inherit and extend).
> Again, why? With python-novatools we have complete control over the
> code and don't need to push it back to python-cloudservers, which is
> not OpenStack-based, it's specific to Rackspace Cloud Servers.
One of your needs is to provide something that is compatible with
cloudservers so that you can migrate without breaking existing customers.
> > 2. the existing spec for "openstack api 1.1" is still contested, so
> > the tool chain going forward off of something that is made for compat
> > cloudservers is possibly misguided at this point.
> Only if you hamstring it by saying that the changes should be pushed
> back upstream.
I don't see what changes or upstream you are referring to, I was stating
that there is not agreement over what the openstack api should be and basing
plans heavily upon the existing proposal may be premature.
> > 3. i'm not sure there need to be separate tools/libraries to interact
> > each service, but i do like the idea of each being able ot provide a
> > of a web dashboard.
> I'm not sure I understand what #3 has to do with novatools being
> separate from python-cloudservers. Could you explain?
I was responding to John Purrier's statements.
> > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>
> > wrote:
> >> Eric Day wrote:
> >> > For copyright headers, just add a new "Copyright 2011 OpenStack,
> >> > LLC." line for existing files under the old copyright line. You can
> >> > a new license for new code for existing files, but that gets messy.
> >> > new files, just do as we usually do for new files (copyright + license
> >> > brief). You can also add new files under a different license (Apache
> >> > instead of BSD) if you like, but I'd probably keep it the same within
> >> > one project for simplicity. Note that this is only suitable since
> >> > it's BSD, if it were GPL (or some other viral license), it would be
> >> > a bit different.
> >> In fact, the current files do not have any copyright header. Should we
> >> invent the copyright line that should have been there, and add to it ?
> >> --
> >> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
> >> Release Manager, OpenStack
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